I would like to share my experiences with the new Z-foil Vishay Audio Resistors (VAR):
http://www.vishay.com/product?docid=63140&query=VAR
I built in six resistors at the most critical location in my home-made tube preamplifier. The circuit where I tested the VARs is a two-stage passive RIAA equalizing circuit with three SRPP tube stages. The equalizer between the first and second stage realizes the bass boost: 95.4k series between the stages, 10.6k + 30nF shunt to GND. The equalizer between the second and third stage is for treble cut: 75k series between the stages, 1nF shunt to GND. I used Russian vacuum-sealed 0.5% silver-mica SGM-3 capacitors in the equalizer (in combination with the VAR resistors). I got the exact corner frequencies with the resistors as below:
Output impedance of each tube stage = 1.2k
(1.2k + 94.2k + 10.6k) x (4 x 7500pF) = 3180us
10.6k x (4 x 7500pF) = 318us
(1.2k + 73.8k) x 1000pF = 75us
I used Yageo 2W metal-film resistors at these positions before and at all other positions. The system: turntable Thorens TD160 Super, arm Mayware Formula 4, pickup Denon DL103, MC-pre: Dynavector PE-2, preamplifier: home-made SRPP stages with E88CC as above, power amp: home-made push-pull with Russian G-807s without negative feedback, loadspeakers: Quad ESL (aka ESL-57). The coupling capacitors in the preamplifier are Russian K40-U9 1uF/400V PIO types, and Russian FT-3 teflon types in the power amplifier. All the other resistors are 2W Yageo (RSF2WS) and the volume pot is a plain Piher (shame, I know...).
I listened to these randomly selected LPs:
Pal Esterhazy: Harmonia Caelestis (Hungaroton, http://www.hungaroton.hu/hu/node/2314)
Sara Marie Anderson: Bergen Havn (Opus 3, http://www.rauna.com/slides/covers/18.gif)
Dire Straits: Communiqué (Vertigo)
Miles Davies: Sketches of Spain (Columbia)
and some more.
My impressions after the first listening:
- The dynamics of the music increased. There is more "air". Before I observed that the fortissimos are a bit annoying, one want to turn down the volume. Now I can listen to high volume without feeling it "too loud".
- The bass notes can be separately heard (especially at contrabass, bass guitar), they are not melting together like they did before.
- The female voice is very clean, transparent, nature-like. I can feel her presence in the room.
- It is possible to chat while load rock music is played.
I did not believe that so big improvement can be caused by just replacing a few resistors, before I actually heard it. Now I have no rest until I throw out the remaining metal-oxide resistors...
http://www.vishay.com/product?docid=63140&query=VAR
I built in six resistors at the most critical location in my home-made tube preamplifier. The circuit where I tested the VARs is a two-stage passive RIAA equalizing circuit with three SRPP tube stages. The equalizer between the first and second stage realizes the bass boost: 95.4k series between the stages, 10.6k + 30nF shunt to GND. The equalizer between the second and third stage is for treble cut: 75k series between the stages, 1nF shunt to GND. I used Russian vacuum-sealed 0.5% silver-mica SGM-3 capacitors in the equalizer (in combination with the VAR resistors). I got the exact corner frequencies with the resistors as below:
Output impedance of each tube stage = 1.2k
(1.2k + 94.2k + 10.6k) x (4 x 7500pF) = 3180us
10.6k x (4 x 7500pF) = 318us
(1.2k + 73.8k) x 1000pF = 75us
I used Yageo 2W metal-film resistors at these positions before and at all other positions. The system: turntable Thorens TD160 Super, arm Mayware Formula 4, pickup Denon DL103, MC-pre: Dynavector PE-2, preamplifier: home-made SRPP stages with E88CC as above, power amp: home-made push-pull with Russian G-807s without negative feedback, loadspeakers: Quad ESL (aka ESL-57). The coupling capacitors in the preamplifier are Russian K40-U9 1uF/400V PIO types, and Russian FT-3 teflon types in the power amplifier. All the other resistors are 2W Yageo (RSF2WS) and the volume pot is a plain Piher (shame, I know...).
I listened to these randomly selected LPs:
Pal Esterhazy: Harmonia Caelestis (Hungaroton, http://www.hungaroton.hu/hu/node/2314)
Sara Marie Anderson: Bergen Havn (Opus 3, http://www.rauna.com/slides/covers/18.gif)
Dire Straits: Communiqué (Vertigo)
Miles Davies: Sketches of Spain (Columbia)
and some more.
My impressions after the first listening:
- The dynamics of the music increased. There is more "air". Before I observed that the fortissimos are a bit annoying, one want to turn down the volume. Now I can listen to high volume without feeling it "too loud".
- The bass notes can be separately heard (especially at contrabass, bass guitar), they are not melting together like they did before.
- The female voice is very clean, transparent, nature-like. I can feel her presence in the room.
- It is possible to chat while load rock music is played.
I did not believe that so big improvement can be caused by just replacing a few resistors, before I actually heard it. Now I have no rest until I throw out the remaining metal-oxide resistors...
Finally I replaced all 1k5 resistors in the SRPP cathodes to Vishay Audio Resistors. I expected a great improvement, and there is a big difference indeed. My initial impressions are quite mixed. The sound became a bit harsh (or was it too smeared before?). On the other hand I can hear much more low level details that were before masked by the high level signal. The preamplifier has run ony for a few hours now, and the sound is getting more and more smooth, the harshness is going away gradually. I expect it will be smooth and detailed at the end. I am "rediscovering" my LP and CD collection, as it used to happen...
oshifis said:Now I have no rest until I throw out the remaining metal-oxide resistors...
You may find much less improvement with the remaining resistors.
Hi ZenMod,
This is the company for the resistors. They will sell just one!
http://www.texascomponents.com/
BC
This is the company for the resistors. They will sell just one!
http://www.texascomponents.com/
BC
Note that these "VAR" resistors are just "naked" versions of the standard packaged Vishay resistors. I find it hard to believe that the naked version has any audible advantage over the standard version, but whatever...
This is very interesting. So, just the input resistors can make such change? Wow.
oshifis -
Excuse my lame question, but... why placing into the audio signal path a capacitors that are "shutting the signal to the ground"?
I just did not understand.
As soon as the signal reach the capacitor... I think this is completely unnecessary blurring of the sound, as capacitor in general act to prevent voltage changes, so it has to "blur" a little the amplitude to prevent fast and rapid changes of it.
Don't I get it right?
oshifis -
10.6k + 30nF shunt to GND... 75k series between the stages, 1nF shunt to GND...
Excuse my lame question, but... why placing into the audio signal path a capacitors that are "shutting the signal to the ground"?
I just did not understand.
As soon as the signal reach the capacitor... I think this is completely unnecessary blurring of the sound, as capacitor in general act to prevent voltage changes, so it has to "blur" a little the amplitude to prevent fast and rapid changes of it.
Don't I get it right?
Pardon me, but what section of forum do you mean?
I think tha this is about Electronics and Parts, it is well suitable there... nope?
I just have no idea what you mean.
Regardless it looks like no-one want even touch my complex questions there: http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=124502
So looks like I need to chop them down to more managable parts... 😱
I think tha this is about Electronics and Parts, it is well suitable there... nope?
I just have no idea what you mean.
Regardless it looks like no-one want even touch my complex questions there: http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=124502
So looks like I need to chop them down to more managable parts... 😱
trodas said:Pardon me, but what section of forum do you mean?
......
I wrote that original poster use them in phono section of preamp ........ so - that's why caps are shunted to gnd - passive RIAA EQ
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