Hello
Can I have some information about Visaton WS 20 E (~29€, parameters), WS 25 E (~34€, parameters), W 200 (~28€ parameters), W 250 (~46€, parameters) series subwoofers and which one is better. Going to use two of them in ~20m2 room.
P.S price range in brackets
Can I have some information about Visaton WS 20 E (~29€, parameters), WS 25 E (~34€, parameters), W 200 (~28€ parameters), W 250 (~46€, parameters) series subwoofers and which one is better. Going to use two of them in ~20m2 room.
P.S price range in brackets
Last edited:
It would be nice if you have access to something better...
From offered, my choice would be W 250 (TL or closed box) or W 200 (TL, vented or closed box).
If main usage is for surround (home theater) than W 250 in a low tuned vented box will do. Don't expect audiophile quality with this.
From offered, my choice would be W 250 (TL or closed box) or W 200 (TL, vented or closed box).
If main usage is for surround (home theater) than W 250 in a low tuned vented box will do. Don't expect audiophile quality with this.
What is something better? I dont think T-line suits me. I am looking for some quick and deep bass(as deep as possible with the current options).
Last edited:
Considering the use "sub", none. Now let's see,
You could use them OB or in large sealed speakers. Let's check them overall,
I would use the W 250 - 8 Ohm as a woofer, and not a sub, in an OB like application or sealed (~100/120L) Dahlquist DQ-10 style. You can use ~50W RMS with "no" distortion in this case (sealed) and it is 92.6 dB/2.83V/m.😎
Now the VISATON W200, this would be more interesting but again, the size of the speaker, it can work in a BR or sealed, if you can try a reflex of 120L@30Hz... to get some subs sonics and you can use the full power RMS about 40-50W.
The WS 25 E - 8 Ohm is an interesting woofer good for OB. Place it in the wall (literally) with an adjacent room as the enclosure, or use it as a OB/baffle only. In a 120L sealed has one note only (~50Hz) and in OB or wall baffle it will sing lower frequencies, in this case about ~10-20W only.
Visatons' homepage suggest three Bass Reflex boxes for W250 30L@43Hz, 50L@38Hz, 70L@38Hz. Why those bad option and Open Baffle is a solution?
With the listed models, it is impossible to have a "quick" bass with vented or closed box, because of their TS parameters (high Qts). They are good for OB, as Inductor pointed up, but I think that is not your idea for a sub. Transmission line box will have the most "quick" bass, compared to a vented or closed box.
Last edited:
Yes, read my lips, as a woofer (2/3-ways) not as a sub.
Nice woofer.
For a sub 70L@38Hz you get a high Q (not desirable), you will need extension in LF, and F3~50Hz. Simulate them yourself instead of asking questions without trying.😉
If I had a programs I would do that myself. But I dont have any. That's why I am here looking for information.
This is what I made:
Fs; 45hz
Port length: ~1.9m
Port Area: ~207cm^2
Woofer: Visaton W200 8"
25.6x24.2x99.2
Fs; 45hz
Port length: ~1.9m
Port Area: ~207cm^2
Woofer: Visaton W200 8"
25.6x24.2x99.2
Attachments
Last edited:
FWIW, this is the most current, optioned, accurate version: https://www.facebook.com/WinISD/posts/126113234166443
GM
There are many possibilities with these speakers ....
Only two, I built on my own:
W200S in 39l vented box (called W20.39 by Visaton, just look at their homepage).
This is a great woofer for a small room if you don't have massive ambitions regarding level ... I used that one for years.
W250 (8 Ohm) in a relatively small closed box. That is what I use currently for music, two of them back to back to cancel movement, don't have the exact numbers, but some 40l each. With a bit of active equalization it is linear down to 40Hz and has no relevant dynamic limits in a room with 20 m^2
Disclaimer: I'm 49, not 19 so my expectations regarding level might differ from yours ;-)
Only two, I built on my own:
W200S in 39l vented box (called W20.39 by Visaton, just look at their homepage).
This is a great woofer for a small room if you don't have massive ambitions regarding level ... I used that one for years.
W250 (8 Ohm) in a relatively small closed box. That is what I use currently for music, two of them back to back to cancel movement, don't have the exact numbers, but some 40l each. With a bit of active equalization it is linear down to 40Hz and has no relevant dynamic limits in a room with 20 m^2
Disclaimer: I'm 49, not 19 so my expectations regarding level might differ from yours ;-)
I'm not really into "power" things. At the moment I can't make a decision which enclosure to choose. Probably going to make more calculation and take a break for 1 month. In the mean time going to look for amplifier. Thanks for the help everyone!
It's wise to use them at home? My amp is Koda KD-216 (2x110rms 8ohm manual) http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/rftech/library/2004/5_subwoofers/p110s4-p110s8-ts.pdf
Do you get/have the Rockford Fosgate S4 or the S8? (manual? linked)
They are good in a sealed (LT optional) or 4.wave/TL type.
They will have more dB's on the 20-50Hz LF in a BR 70's+/90 liter.
In a sealed 40L you can have F10@24Hz
In a BR 90.0L@23Hz you can have F3@22Hz. You can also tune it higher say a 70L@32Hz for a higher Qt.
You have here already 3 different patterns alignments.
They are good in a sealed (LT optional) or 4.wave/TL type.
They will have more dB's on the 20-50Hz LF in a BR 70's+/90 liter.
In a sealed 40L you can have F10@24Hz
In a BR 90.0L@23Hz you can have F3@22Hz. You can also tune it higher say a 70L@32Hz for a higher Qt.
You have here already 3 different patterns alignments.
Last edited:
I would like to go BR 50 liters@40hz and F3 ~32hz with a 50cm^2 port at 12cm length (90l@23hz is way too low for me to listen them at home). However what is better a BR or TL/4wave (i would tune it at 40hz)? I am going to use 8ohm speakers, because my amp operates only at 8 ohms.
Exactly. 1/4 waveTL is the way to go ( if you find it easy to design/build). I don't have the expertise besides just appreciating them. Bjorno is another member designing them with detail.
- Status
- Not open for further replies.