Toroidy 300VA 50-0-50...for JLH Hart KIt Monoblock.

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tonewheelkev

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2010-08-30 9:18 pm
Leeds UK
  • #1
    Not at all confident about this...so need to check that this will do the job.

    Have found this standard grade Toroid on the Toroidy.pl site.


    TTS0300 - Transformer TS300VA/230 - voltage to 50 V - Shop Toroidy.pl


    Needs to replace a burnt out ILP 73033 (300VA 50-0-50) in an 80's built

    Hart Kit JLH Monoblock amp.


    It isn't audiograde.....but understand that the original ILP wasn't audiograde either!
     
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    FauxFrench

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    2017-12-03 9:44 pm
    The mountains, calm and quiet.
  • #4
    I am 100% confident that the toroidal transformer will give the same voltages as before (with the usual tolerance) if the rectifier/storage capacitors are in order and that the toroidal transformer can supply 300VA. MU-metal encapsulation would provide hum-shielding but also the original transformer had no MU-metal encapsulation. So, unless the original transformer had some shields for reducing noise coupling, there should be no performance disadvantage with the toroidal transformer you suggest.
    Whenever you specify "audio grade", it is always a reason for reflection. Very skilled members on this forum have concluded that "audio grade" electrolytic capacitors, unless bipolar, are normal high quality capacitors with another design on the outside and a significantly higher price. At least the price is a difference :D
     
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    tonewheelkev

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    2010-08-30 9:18 pm
    Leeds UK
  • #5
    FauxFrench said:
    I am 100% confident that the toroidal transformer will give the same voltages as before (with the usual tolerance) if the rectifier/storage capacitors are in order and that the toroidal transformer can supply 300VA. MU-metal encapsulation would provide hum-shielding but also the original transformer had no MU-metal encapsulation. So, unless the original transformer had some shields for reducing noise coupling, there should be no performance disadvantage with the toroidal transformer you suggest.
    Whenever you specify "audio grade", it is always a reason for reflection. Very skilled members on this forum have concluded that "audio grade" electrolytic capacitors, unless bipolar, are normal high quality capacitors with another design on the outside and a significantly higher price. At least the price is a difference :D
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    Many thanks!!
    I have just been watching some very interesting videos on YouTube....on the subject of winding a Toroidal...and am very keen on exploring this as a way forward!
     
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    tonewheelkev

    Member
    2010-08-30 9:18 pm
    Leeds UK
  • #6
    On reflection...don't think a DIY winding project is the way forward.

    So...was just about to press the button on a Toroidy TTS0300 2 x 50v...and noticed the diameter!!! This is listed as 124mm...which dwarfs the ILP unit I'm replacing, which is more like 110mm in diameter.
    Those familiar with the JLH mosfet PSU PCB will know there is a part circular cut-out that appears not to accomodate those extra few mm's!! :(
    Can't believe this is turning out to be sooo difficult to replace this Trafo...
    ...any thoughts please???
    Perhaps there's a source of used/NOS parts out there???
     
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    silasmellor

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    2016-11-09 4:07 pm
    Denmark
  • #7
    You can contact Toroidy and ask if they are able to wind the transformer in a different form factor (narrow and tall instead), they may be willing to do that for a little extra. Their transformers are good quality in my experience so i would recommend them, but otherwise you may need to shop around for alternatives.

    These are from suppliers that ship to denmark, so you may need to check further if they will ship to you, but options:
    AA-58057 RM Ring Core Transformer 300 VA 2x 50 VAC Noratel 115mm
    Ringkernetransformer, Primaer: 2 x 115V ac, 2 Udgange, 300VA, Sekundaer: 2 x 50V ac, Vaegt: 2.7kg, Mal: 117 (Dia.) x 60mm | RS Components 117mm
     
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    tonewheelkev

    Member
    2010-08-30 9:18 pm
    Leeds UK
  • #8
    silasmellor said:
    You can contact Toroidy and ask if they are able to wind the transformer in a different form factor (narrow and tall instead), they may be willing to do that for a little extra. Their transformers are good quality in my experience so i would recommend them, but otherwise you may need to shop around for alternatives.

    These are from suppliers that ship to denmark, so you may need to check further if they will ship to you, but options:
    AA-58057 RM Ring Core Transformer 300 VA 2x 50 VAC Noratel 115mm
    Ringkernetransformer, Primaer: 2 x 115V ac, 2 Udgange, 300VA, Sekundaer: 2 x 50V ac, Vaegt: 2.7kg, Mal: 117 (Dia.) x 60mm | RS Components 117mm
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    Thanks Silas...a good idea to ask Toroidy about a 'custom' size option...will get onto that right now!! :)
     
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    tonewheelkev

    Member
    2010-08-30 9:18 pm
    Leeds UK
  • #10
    Marra said:
    Why not check with Tiger Toroids; good quality and reasonable price. And no doubt less shipping than from Poland.
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    Thanks!! Did just that, and I've ordered a pair of 'em from Tiger.
    Perhaps a bit obsessive of me, but I wanted both Monoblocks to be the 'same' wrt PSU!!!
    This means that I'll now have a spare Toroid...an original HART XT100UK Audio Grade Toroid.....which I'll get around to 'moving on' at some point soon!!
     
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