I have a pile of suspect Lateral mosfets and I need to find a way to easily test them for damaged gates.
I have an old beat up Sound Code Systems 2350A amp. it's basically the same circuit as a Soundcraftsmen PCR amplifier minus the goofy power supply. Same circuit topology anyway. It exhibits an odd problem that I suspect is due to bad/damaged mosfet gates.
At 1watt into 8 ohms 1khz the distortion in each channel is .003-ish percent. but. at a very specific repeatable point, each channel will show oscillation on the waveform. it's equal to about 25vrms or 83 watts. below that point, and it is a sharp break over point, the amp works flawlessly. I don't particularly care about fixing the amp. I am only interested in the mosfets from the amp.
Now in the past when I have had old haflers and the like that were abused and had damaged gates on the mosfets, they would just oscillate all the time over a signal at any level. SO, I am looking for a way to build a simple test jig to test each mosfet as well as the pile I have on hand and determine if they are ok. I do not have access to a curve tracer at this time so I need to devise a test jig and I am looking to those with more knowledge then I to offer suggestions as such.
Please advise.
I have an old beat up Sound Code Systems 2350A amp. it's basically the same circuit as a Soundcraftsmen PCR amplifier minus the goofy power supply. Same circuit topology anyway. It exhibits an odd problem that I suspect is due to bad/damaged mosfet gates.
At 1watt into 8 ohms 1khz the distortion in each channel is .003-ish percent. but. at a very specific repeatable point, each channel will show oscillation on the waveform. it's equal to about 25vrms or 83 watts. below that point, and it is a sharp break over point, the amp works flawlessly. I don't particularly care about fixing the amp. I am only interested in the mosfets from the amp.
Now in the past when I have had old haflers and the like that were abused and had damaged gates on the mosfets, they would just oscillate all the time over a signal at any level. SO, I am looking for a way to build a simple test jig to test each mosfet as well as the pile I have on hand and determine if they are ok. I do not have access to a curve tracer at this time so I need to devise a test jig and I am looking to those with more knowledge then I to offer suggestions as such.
Please advise.
I usually find lateral mosfets fail catastrophically.
That is a short DS or sometimes a short to the gate.
Oscillation is more likely to be a fault in the amp.
Laterals are not supposed to do that. Verticals will often fail that way...
Laterals are not supposed to do that. Verticals will often fail that way...
It depends on the circuit.
I have always used zeners on the gate to source to limit current through them.
I can confirm that. I put a LED into each gate line as an indicator for defective gates.In the past I have found damaged laterals by measuring for voltage drop across the gate stopper resistor. A damaged fet will draw gate current.
I can confirm that. I put a LED into each gate line as an indicator for defective gates.
ohh I like that method. I will experiment with that!
After further testing. I found the problem was with my test setup. I found out that this particular amplifier does not like having one phase of the balanced input shorted to ground. it is an old SCS 2350A amplifier with 1/4" balanced inputs. I was connecting the output of my AP from the BNC output to the 1/4" input with a Mono plug adapter and it did not like that. as the BNC output is floating. changing how things were wired corrected the problem.
I just recently acquired two 2600A amplifiers in good working condition (so far, about 10 hours on them).
I've had a technician friend due a cursory check and all caps are spot on. We changed the XLR mono input connector on each amp and check some soldering points.
As I am using these with my main speakers, is there anything I should have checked/done to ensure these "very vintage" amps don't hurt my speakers?
Thanks for any feedback!
I've had a technician friend due a cursory check and all caps are spot on. We changed the XLR mono input connector on each amp and check some soldering points.
As I am using these with my main speakers, is there anything I should have checked/done to ensure these "very vintage" amps don't hurt my speakers?
Thanks for any feedback!
I have an scs2350 here that has the problem breaking into oscillations/massive distortion after just a watt or two. From the melted condition of the capacitors on the output zobel, I assumed that the gates were blown, but haven’t confirmed that.
An added external speaker protection relay would be a good idea on these amps.
An added external speaker protection relay would be a good idea on these amps.
An added external speaker protection relay would be a good idea on these amps.
Thanks for the feedback.
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