Building a dorm theater sub for a friend. Was planning on using BluePrint drivers, but i cant seem to find blueprint anymore.'
Recommendations for how to contact blueprint? for other drivers?
Thinking maybe Shiva. Maybe dual Shiva's. How does Adire's Tempest and Maelstrom stack up? Any other subs i want to look into?
(originally going to be powered by a denon AVR-3802. will probably want more power and feed into a Samson s700.)
thanks
myren
Recommendations for how to contact blueprint? for other drivers?
Thinking maybe Shiva. Maybe dual Shiva's. How does Adire's Tempest and Maelstrom stack up? Any other subs i want to look into?
(originally going to be powered by a denon AVR-3802. will probably want more power and feed into a Samson s700.)
thanks
myren
Since "dorm subs" tend to need to be on the smaller side, the Tempest or Maelstrom are probably not what you want. The Tempest just starts getting interesting in ~7 cu ft ported, so figure out how big you want to go. Beware of some of the Blueprint drivers. The 1503, as an example, has a nasty hump in response ~ 70 Hz. Some EQing is mandatory. Take a look at the Dayton DVC 12". Similar specs than a Shiva and it works pretty well in smaller enclosures.
Pete
Pete
we're going to be making a roll out under bed coffee table out of the amps. and stocking everyone with three pound coffee cups with friction pads on them. :-] size is still a concern, but eight cubic feet is fairly reasonable.
i was under the impression that the blueprint drivers were fairly top notch. *sigh* the quest continues.
myren
i was under the impression that the blueprint drivers were fairly top notch. *sigh* the quest continues.
myren
You can definitely get great bass from a Tempest in 8 cu ft. What are you looking for....low end extension or "slam"?
Pete
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id like some thing that would knock the wind out of me at 15 feet away HUMM scratches his head I WONDER IF THAT IS POSSIBLE
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more extension than kick, but definately some kick too. doesnt need to go ultra low, just within the range of home theater and home music.
ported. theres always socks if things dont work out. :-]
thanks
myren
ported. theres always socks if things dont work out. :-]
thanks
myren
JasonL said:id like some thing that would knock the wind out of me at 15 feet away HUMM scratches his head I WONDER IF THAT IS POSSIBLE
This little stack (when loaded w drivers) did that -- 2 x Bryston 4Bs for power.
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dave
Myren said:i was under the impression that the blueprint drivers were fairly top notch. *sigh* the quest continues.
How hi-end do you want to go? The Lambda's are world class bass drivers. Even their baby -- the Stryke SAE 1024 is an awesome driver (i just got a pr) and my pick of the very competitive range of mid-priced 12" sub drivers available. The pictures on the net don't do these justice.
dave
just within the range of home theater and home music.
Well, that about covers everything a sub could do! 🙂
SBB4 - 7 cu ft tuned to 19 with a flared 4" vent 11.5 " long. Give it 150 watts @ 4 ohms and you'll reach excursion ~30 Hz. In room, you should get ~115 dB output.
Pete
$250 is about what i'm looking to spend on drivers.
Whats the golden ratio for acoustics again? *sigh*
Max space is probably 10 feet, maybe 11. 8 would be nice. Depends on what returns are going to be.
Still to small for dual shivas, right? Doesnt matter, actually, unless dual shiva's would fit in 11 cubic feet.
Myren
Whats the golden ratio for acoustics again? *sigh*
Max space is probably 10 feet, maybe 11. 8 would be nice. Depends on what returns are going to be.
Still to small for dual shivas, right? Doesnt matter, actually, unless dual shiva's would fit in 11 cubic feet.
Myren
Myren said:Still to small for dual shivas, right? Doesnt matter, actually, unless dual shiva's would fit in 11 cubic feet.
I have a single Shiva in 1.7 cu ft and have a box underway for a pr that is just over 4. Optimum is between 4 & 7 cu ft for the older ones i have. With lots of power & a Linkwitz Transform people are putting these in a cu ft box.
dave
A single Tempest has almost twice the output of dual Shivas, so unless you really want to go with two drivers, it's a draw.
Pete
Pete
Pete Mazz said:A single Tempest has almost twice the output of dual Shivas, so unless you really want to go with two drivers, it's a draw.
But with a single driver you don't get the large benefits of being able to load the drivers in a push-push configuration.
I always prefer to use 2 drivers -- particularily in the bass -- because of these benefits.
dave
planet10 said:
But with a single driver you don't get the large benefits of being able to load the drivers in a push-push configuration.
I always prefer to use 2 drivers -- particularily in the bass -- because of these benefits.
dave
Agreed! And at reasonable levels, you'll get lower distortion as well.
But if bang for the buck is a consideration....
Pete
Pete Mazz said:But if bang for the buck is a consideration....
Maybe that should be bounce for the buck -- after hearing stories of peoples subs "walking" when playing.
dave
Maybe that should be bounce for the buck -- after hearing stories of peoples subs "walking" when playing.
And in the case of a downfiring driver and a lighter tube sub...hopping in place. 🙂
Pete
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