first time on the forum. Looks great. i have done a number of DIY projects, but I have never made any measurements on my speakers, in other ways then to listen to them.
I am looking for equipment in order to design and evaluate the performance of my DIY projects. So far I've reckoned that I probably need three things to start off with:
1: Software (e.g lspCAD)
2: something called a JIG.
3: A microphone.
My question is where I can get hold of these gadgets or how to build them? Or if it is anything else that I have forgotten for some basic construction/evaluation work?
Any suggestions or advice would be of great help.
regards, karl
I am looking for equipment in order to design and evaluate the performance of my DIY projects. So far I've reckoned that I probably need three things to start off with:
1: Software (e.g lspCAD)
2: something called a JIG.
3: A microphone.
My question is where I can get hold of these gadgets or how to build them? Or if it is anything else that I have forgotten for some basic construction/evaluation work?
Any suggestions or advice would be of great help.
regards, karl
Hi Karl,
first let me say that you should have put this thread in the loudspeaker forum.
About testing, check my page where is described a tutorial on how to use Speaker Workshop, a freeware software to measure speakers.
Remember that for impedance measurement you don't need a mic, while for acoustic measure you need it; listening to you project is very important too, don't think that measures alone are the best thing to do: both helps each other to get your gol.
Regards
Claudio
first let me say that you should have put this thread in the loudspeaker forum.
About testing, check my page where is described a tutorial on how to use Speaker Workshop, a freeware software to measure speakers.
Remember that for impedance measurement you don't need a mic, while for acoustic measure you need it; listening to you project is very important too, don't think that measures alone are the best thing to do: both helps each other to get your gol.
Regards
Claudio
Reply to Claudio:
Thank you very much Claudio, this was great help !
I still have one question though:
if I want to build my own mic-preamp, can i go for the one proposed by eric wallin as below:
______________________________________________________
The jig is designed to plug a preamplified mic into. You could
probably just use a 3V to 9V supply (2 AA bats or a 9V bat)
along with a capacitor and resistor in order to power the
Panasonic mic cartridge. They are very cheap from Digikey (<$3
in single quantities). Engaging ASCII-CAD:
power switch
/
+-----o o-----+
| |
(+) 5k
3Vbatt |
(-) +------- 10uF -------(+)
| |
| (+)
| Panasonic cartridge To mic input on jig
| (-)
| |
+-------------+--------------------(gnd)
_________________________________________________
Do i need a polyprop capacitor or is it OK with cheaper ones?
Thank you very much Claudio, this was great help !
I still have one question though:
if I want to build my own mic-preamp, can i go for the one proposed by eric wallin as below:
______________________________________________________
The jig is designed to plug a preamplified mic into. You could
probably just use a 3V to 9V supply (2 AA bats or a 9V bat)
along with a capacitor and resistor in order to power the
Panasonic mic cartridge. They are very cheap from Digikey (<$3
in single quantities). Engaging ASCII-CAD:
power switch
/
+-----o o-----+
| |
(+) 5k
3Vbatt |
(-) +------- 10uF -------(+)
| |
| (+)
| Panasonic cartridge To mic input on jig
| (-)
| |
+-------------+--------------------(gnd)
_________________________________________________
Do i need a polyprop capacitor or is it OK with cheaper ones?
I doubt you would get enough usable level from such a simple mic powering scheme. I built up the Wallin preamp1 and it works fine - the extra gain is neccessary if doing far field measurements.
Cheers
Cheers
Karl, I am glad it helped you!
About the mic-pre, I have no experience with Eric's pre; check the SW forum to have more infos, or follow Centauri advise. However remember that if you are going to use a balanced mic, like the ECM8000 I suggest, you will need a balanced pre.
Claudio
About the mic-pre, I have no experience with Eric's pre; check the SW forum to have more infos, or follow Centauri advise. However remember that if you are going to use a balanced mic, like the ECM8000 I suggest, you will need a balanced pre.
Claudio
measurements don't replace listening...
Definately, I've spent a lot of time designing and building custom drivers from scratch. One time I damped and tweaked a driver until the response was nearly perfectly flat ( +/- about .5 db from below 100 Hz to over 1 Khz) and we were excited to bring it from the lab over to our home theater test room to give it a listen. It sounded like crap, hardly better than your average 1.5 watt K-mart special 1/4" wall particle board non-removeable grill junk speaker.
I'm sure if they didn't take hours to build each driver, and we printed out the freq. respons charts people would have bought them anyway and convinced themselves that they sound good. It's amazing how bias can overpower your ears...
claudio said:...listening to you project is very important too, don't think that measures alone are the best thing to do: both helps each other to get your gol....
Definately, I've spent a lot of time designing and building custom drivers from scratch. One time I damped and tweaked a driver until the response was nearly perfectly flat ( +/- about .5 db from below 100 Hz to over 1 Khz) and we were excited to bring it from the lab over to our home theater test room to give it a listen. It sounded like crap, hardly better than your average 1.5 watt K-mart special 1/4" wall particle board non-removeable grill junk speaker.
I'm sure if they didn't take hours to build each driver, and we printed out the freq. respons charts people would have bought them anyway and convinced themselves that they sound good. It's amazing how bias can overpower your ears...
I've built both Jason Neal's mic preamp (with Panasonic WM60A) and the Wallin jig. I also started out with Speaker Workshop. This is probably the cheapest speaker design setup you can find in the Universe.
I highly recommend building the preamp, it's not too difficult.
Good luck
I highly recommend building the preamp, it's not too difficult.
Good luck
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