Slight 60 Hz hum Aleph J

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2010-03-06 11:41 pm
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Try twisted pairs for EVERY flow and return pair.
Ensure there is NEVER a flow wire separated from it's return.

This may or may not improve your hum.

But before you start modifying, measure the amplifier output noise and output offset with the input shorted (0r) and with a 1k0 as the dummy input source.
Then you have something to compare with after the modification/s

If all this fails to give a significant improvement, then try the CRC or CLC as the smoothing.
I added ~47uH between the first and second caps and got an ~10dB reduction in ripple on the PSU output.
 
if Iq is in area of regular FW Aleph J (say 80W of dissipation per channel ) then 4x22mF is on lowish side

NP is using 8x15mF in common FW PSU

that fact , combined with not perfect wiring and super efficient spks is what is giving that buzz

also - it seems you have sort of separate C banks for each channel which isn't optimal solution , just because they're anyway in parallel , due to common connection at Graetzs

so - either put them (caps) together , physically close , and wire them properly ...... in CRC , then route wires to channels , or make separate channel C banks with each bank having own pair of Graetzs

choice is yours
 

Rodeodave

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2004-12-26 9:38 pm
in the alps
Um, it seems that the green wire at the capacitor bank is ground, right? If so, massive ground loop right there.

How? Right input ground going to pcb. Ground wire going to right cap bank. From there to left cap bank. From there to pcb and to the left output. The two channels' grounds inevitably meet somewhere, and thus a massive loop is formed. And the transformer sitting right in the middle of it all.

If there's one thing I loathe, it's ground loops. So help me sleep better, and break the loop (but still ground everything properly!). You should see some improvement by doing so.
 

wazzy

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2007-09-06 6:26 pm
Kadoma
Correct me if I'm wrong but your transformer seems to have a three wire secondary, and you seem to have two bridge rectifiers one for each amplifier board not so? In a form of dual mono power supply but from a common transformer, in my limited experience when trying this scheme always resulted in hum, try using one bridge rectifier for both boards and just use your existing caps for the smoothing, worth a try. And as Andrew T said twisted pairs, always.
 
power thermistor will certainly pass greater current than fuse , be it on secondary or primary side ..........
are you sure?
a fault current prior to the fuse blowing can be 1kApk.
Can a Power Thermistor pass this current?
Or will the power Thermistor reduce the current such that the fuse does not rupture?
Have you tested any Power Thermistor to see if they survive longer than it takes for the fuse to rupture and the arc to extinguish?