Sin Bin

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This is the "Sin Bin" thread.

People who break the rules and get themselves put in the sinbin will be unable to post for the duration of their stay. Additionally for each sinbinning a moderator will state who and why they were sinbinned. Public comment is not invited, however if you would like to comment on a particular sinbinning please email me personally at I will be happy to discuss any matter in private with you.
cowanrg: sin bin for 14 days

It was decided among moderators to give cowanrg a sin bin sentence of 14 days.
* he posted where to get porn
* he posted incorrect information
* he omitted to apologise for that
* he told a new member to go to another forum
* he annoyed a new member.
* he told a new member he was a liar.

This has just happened in the last six days. Some of those issues may have happened before the new forum rules were announced, but not all and one is already enough. Said issues might violate rules of other audio forum sites, too.

Furthermore cowanrg preferred to ignore helpful hints and tell the moderator (who was trying him to get back on track) instead what to do. He did so more than once. He wasted his and the moderator's effort and time.

(on behalf of all diyAudio moderators and the site owner)
yldouright: 3 weeks sin bin.

AudioFreak has asked an uninvolved fellow moderator to check and to decide the case. I happened to drop in, so i took charge.

yldouright was asked for an apology, his answer was not satisfactory. It does not count IMO that the member asking happened to be moderator; any member could have asked for an apology if he or she feels injustly attacked and the matter could have been settled in a mutally respectful way. AudioFreak did refuse to take charge in a struggle he is involved in.

I looked at the case and did not like at all what happened.

yldouright gets sentence of 3 weeks sin bin.

* Rude and offensive comments (which IMO are hard if not impossible to backup)
* Refused to follow the directive of a moderator

(dice45, diyAudio moderator)
artnyos: 4 weeks sin bin + 12 weeks parole

Artnyos gets 4 weeks sin bin sentence.

* bullying, harrassing, ridiculing, insulting other members.
* instigating another member to commit offenses
* ignoring several warnings by the moderators and gentle tries by moderators and members to set him straight; continuing to be a pain.
* keeping the moderators busy by repeated unjustified use of the "Report this post to a moderator" link.

Summary: challenging the authority of those who try to keep our place peaceful
Corrosive attitude, acidity below pH 0.5

Due to his repeated ignoring of well-meant attempts to make him understand his behaviour cannot go on that way, i add a 12 week parole sentence on those 4 weeks. Means: the faintest complaint during this period triggers 12weeks sin bin.
i have to deeply apologize for the patience i had with Artnyos' stunts, particularly to those members having been harrassed the last few days. I let it go too long.

I sensed from the start i was his pet enemy and i admit i have similar feelings for him, due to the lack of constructive attitude coming from his posts. I wrote him so and hinted we behave like civilized men and stay away from each other and he should stay out of trouble. No private response, the public one was observable.

Having in mind he is "not my best friend", i was extremely careful and tried to be exceptionally just and impartial. This was utterly wrong, i should have acted as swift as i usually do. Artnyos seems to have misinterpreted my patience and lenience as weakness. I have to learn from that.

(dice45, diyAudio moderator)
Harry Haller + sockpuppets: Permanent ban

the users

Ren Hoek
Virgil Hilts (we forgot it and observed if VH will get alive; he did)
have turned out to be the same person and are permanently banned from our forum.

We moderators have proof for that (provided by the site owner): an inquiry at the database has shown that certain IP addresses are repeatedly shared between these users. Out of 3000 members since our forum exists, none other than these actually show up for the IP adresses in question. I think this proves beyond reasonable doubt that these users all have the same identity. Which is clearly against our forum rules.

Before moderation took place here, HarryHaller was a major pain to some of us and observing his actions was no fun.
He has bullied others and punished them for their lack of knowledge.

Since moderation takes place here, HarryHaller has behaved well . But the other identities caused a lot of mess and confusion. As we know that all seven identities are the same person, we think that the person known to us as HarryHaller has used these indentities to behave to his own questionable taste whenever he feeled like that, knowing, that his main identity on which he collected expertise and respect and recognition would stay untouched. He knew he could get away with it.

We feel that such a member has no place in this friendly community.

(diyAudio moderator)
Fred Dieckmann: permanent ban suspended

Fred Dieckmann: permanent ban temporarily suspended.

This is an experiment. If Fred gets along without getting in conflict with our rules for quite a while, it might happen the ban is forgotten to be reactivated.

I ask the community not to make things more difficult by assuming Fred is not meant to defend himself. We would have to step in in cases of "tweaking". We want our experiment to succeed.

(dice45, diyAudio moderator)
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fdegrove has been banned

Fellow diyAudio members,

fdegrove has been banned.

fdegrove was called to order by a moderator. After the subtle approach from a number of moderators failed, a moderator very clearly (and loudly) stated our concerns -- this was a call to order with no immediate action intended.

The timing wasn't the best with fdegrove announcing he was leaving a few hours before (the moderator was not aware of that -- had he been then he would not have seen any further necessity to call fdegrove to order). The moderator action however was marked as official action, the opinion of the entire moderator team, and was still valid.

In return, fdegrove chose to threaten the moderator with legal consequences, announcing his intention to turn this over to his attorney.

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fdegrove chose to threaten a moderator while on official duty and when he became aware that his account had been blocked temporarily until we had settled how to proceed, he repeated this threat to the moderator team and to diyAudio as a whole.

The repeated threat is enough reason: the moderator team has decided that fdegrove is no longer welcome here. He is persona non grata. He is permanently banned.

The two posts in question have been moved into the new Trash Bin temporarily for anyone interested in seeing them.

planet10 :cop: on behalf of the diyAudio moderator team
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