Hello someone got us a yamaha A-S801 amp for a wedding gift !!!!
I am a musician but dont know much about HIFI...
also someone just gave me a pair of old AR48s in really rough condition... for sure the foam needs to be change and the paper cone looks weird too.
what options should I go with considering i have a really good amp but we want good/?vintage? looking speakers. The Acoustic in the living is bad... echo... should I might try to make it better with those stuffs you put on the walls? that doesnt just look like foam?
1# replace foam and(or not) the paper cone
2# replace the whole woofers to put better quality ones? and if that please give me recommandations.
3# get a new set of vintage speakers? should I get a subwoofer too?
thank you very much !
I am a musician but dont know much about HIFI...
also someone just gave me a pair of old AR48s in really rough condition... for sure the foam needs to be change and the paper cone looks weird too.
what options should I go with considering i have a really good amp but we want good/?vintage? looking speakers. The Acoustic in the living is bad... echo... should I might try to make it better with those stuffs you put on the walls? that doesnt just look like foam?
1# replace foam and(or not) the paper cone
2# replace the whole woofers to put better quality ones? and if that please give me recommandations.
3# get a new set of vintage speakers? should I get a subwoofer too?
thank you very much !
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I would try option #1, but simply replacing the surround.
This site shows you how to measure up the surround to find a possible foam replacement:
https://www.decware.com/newsite/diy/decware/Speaker_Repair.html
This site shows you how to measure up the surround to find a possible foam replacement:
https://www.decware.com/newsite/diy/decware/Speaker_Repair.html
^ You can find places where they sell the specific surrounds for your woofers ( see Hifishark.com )... and sometimes the tweeter assembly. But I haven't seen anywhere with a replacement woofer.
Just my option but I probably would not invest in AR48s, especially if I didn’t already know I loved the sound.
SimplySpeakers have foam kits for AR drivers: https://www.simplyspeakers.com/replacement-speakers-advent-acoustic-research.html
And an AR style 10" woofer: https://www.simplyspeakers.com/acoustic-research-replacement-woofer-w-1010.html
And an AR style 10" woofer: https://www.simplyspeakers.com/acoustic-research-replacement-woofer-w-1010.html
That's a big job, also requiring the replacement of the voice coil. More a job for the professional repairer.
Before you proceed any further, are you getting sound out of all the drivers?
Keep the volume very low when testing!
Keep the volume very low when testing!
You have included a completely separate issue which is ripe for a thread of its own - and there will be plenty on diyAudio!
Or read about the topic of acoustic treatment here: https://www.soundonsound.com/sound-advice/beginners-guide-acoustic-treatment
However, the treatment can be as simple as having a thick carpet, thick curtains and a bookshelf full of books!
Thanks for all those response guys ! i didnt try them yet i just ordered some cables so I dont even know if all the woofers and twitters are working...
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006LW0W5Y?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details\
If I should not invest in those speakers, what kind of speakers would you recommand me.
I live in the San Antonio Area
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006LW0W5Y?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details\
If I should not invest in those speakers, what kind of speakers would you recommand me.
I live in the San Antonio Area
you certainly have to change the filter caps (cause aging) too but if it was done in between. Maybe the tweeter has some Ferrofluid in the gap or not. If yes with 40 years, it must be cleaned and swapped.
A not bad speaker having such a look is the Whaferdale Linton Heritage. Excellent Q/P in Europe but I do not know after a boat trip.
A not bad speaker having such a look is the Whaferdale Linton Heritage. Excellent Q/P in Europe but I do not know after a boat trip.
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what do you think about those?
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I would not buy vintage speakers without a guarantee that all the drivers were working.
The ARs look to be a bad investment for someone who has not previously renovated loudspeakers.
I would avoid them.
If you are into the vintage look, there are some manufacturers who try to emulate it in modern, reliable designs - and you could look in that direction.
Back to acoustics: choosing speakers depends on the length of the room into which they will be firing.
Big speakers need 18 ft or longer to produce subsonics, while small speakers (usually designed to be used against a wall for bass reinforcement) perform well at 12 ft, but will sound bass shy in a longer room.
P.S. The cable is fine!
The ARs look to be a bad investment for someone who has not previously renovated loudspeakers.
I would avoid them.
If you are into the vintage look, there are some manufacturers who try to emulate it in modern, reliable designs - and you could look in that direction.
Back to acoustics: choosing speakers depends on the length of the room into which they will be firing.
Big speakers need 18 ft or longer to produce subsonics, while small speakers (usually designed to be used against a wall for bass reinforcement) perform well at 12 ft, but will sound bass shy in a longer room.
P.S. The cable is fine!
Galu, I was speaking of the new iteration of the Lindon, called Lindon Heritage : so new. https://en.wharfedale.eu/products/linton-heritage?variant=42258966642939
I had not seen your edit when I posted, diyiggy.
Yes, the Linton Heritage, but it is pretty costly at around £1200 with stands.
However, there are also the smaller and less expensive Denton 80 and Denton 85 to consider.
They are all voiced to give a warm vintage sound that may not be to everyone's taste.
Yes, the Linton Heritage, but it is pretty costly at around £1200 with stands.
However, there are also the smaller and less expensive Denton 80 and Denton 85 to consider.
They are all voiced to give a warm vintage sound that may not be to everyone's taste.
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Unless the seller has described them as tried and tested and that all drivers are in working order, it is a case of buyer beware!
P.S. I wouldn't regard those as particularly hi-fi.
If I had AR48, I would rebuild them. The finish should be wood veneer, appropriate for a home. The replacement woofers from simply speakers look like a good option for an inexperienced hobbyiest. A few screws removed & replaced, flag terminals pulled off or maybe two solder joints. Wear safety glasses when using solder, it splashes. Maybe some electrolytic caps in the crossover replaced, they are sealed with rubber which deteriorates & leaks eventually.
OTOH, if you have room to dedicate to a couple of huge boxes, I favor Peavey SP2(2004). Black, looks at home with a couple of neon beer signs. I have mine on stands (poles) 6' high so the tweeters project highs over the furniture. But +-3 db 54-17khz and 2nd Harmonic distortion 20 db down at 5 watts. I bought my pair off craigslist for $400 both, drove 220 miles round trip to get them. they work great indoors at 1/8 watt (1 vac). Previous model SP2-XT was good too, mine were stolen by a burglar. It bought those with a whole band setup (CS800s amp, 12 chan mixer, speaker stands, snake, digital effect, $1000).
I don't look for warm, I look for accuracy. I test with piano CD like Beethoven Appassionnata. The Peaveys sound more like a real Steinway grand as anything I have heard. Also I test bass delay, the bass drum in ZZ Top Woke Up with Wood. TIght bass drum, no scooping or smearing. Take an amp and a CD player when buying used, you'll strip out any units with a blown driver, or force an appropriate discount for having to buy new drivers. (they are available). As far as vocals, mine sound great on Diane Krall, Allison Kraus, or Tony Bennett even though human voices are split between two drivers.
OTOH, if you have room to dedicate to a couple of huge boxes, I favor Peavey SP2(2004). Black, looks at home with a couple of neon beer signs. I have mine on stands (poles) 6' high so the tweeters project highs over the furniture. But +-3 db 54-17khz and 2nd Harmonic distortion 20 db down at 5 watts. I bought my pair off craigslist for $400 both, drove 220 miles round trip to get them. they work great indoors at 1/8 watt (1 vac). Previous model SP2-XT was good too, mine were stolen by a burglar. It bought those with a whole band setup (CS800s amp, 12 chan mixer, speaker stands, snake, digital effect, $1000).
I don't look for warm, I look for accuracy. I test with piano CD like Beethoven Appassionnata. The Peaveys sound more like a real Steinway grand as anything I have heard. Also I test bass delay, the bass drum in ZZ Top Woke Up with Wood. TIght bass drum, no scooping or smearing. Take an amp and a CD player when buying used, you'll strip out any units with a blown driver, or force an appropriate discount for having to buy new drivers. (they are available). As far as vocals, mine sound great on Diane Krall, Allison Kraus, or Tony Bennett even though human voices are split between two drivers.
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I wouldnt mind replacing the whole woofers but wouldnt know what to get
and should I replace all 6 ? the 10 4 and 1 inches?
and should I replace all 6 ? the 10 4 and 1 inches?