request for help -> denon amp upgrade

Galu

Member
2018-04-17 6:50 pm
Welcome to the forum!

Being a DIY forum, members are more likely to be orientated towards helping you fix your Denon than comparing its specs with those of the NAD.

The NAD is a more recent model than the Denon, but is also out of production. I trust you have tested the one you are considering, and are sure that it doesn't have issues of its own.
 

kedud

Member
2022-01-19 2:42 pm
Welcome to the forum!

Being a DIY forum, members are more likely to be orientated towards helping you fix your Denon than comparing its specs with those of the NAD.

The NAD is a more recent model than the Denon, but is also out of production. I trust you have tested the one you are considering, and are sure that it doesn't have issues of its own.
Hello,
I have tried (two times) to spray the volume pot of the Denon and it works, but after few days the scratching noise is again there.
Other issue is the remote control that is now damaged by my small daughter. I bought a Harmony remote and played a lot with its settings, but volume level could not be controlled by the remote fluently (by small steps), which is very annoying.
Also the front panel is now scratched by guess who... :)
As I have bought a CD player (NAD C542) from a person whom I can trust, and who also offered the NAD amp to me, I was thinking about making use of the synergy between two NAD devices.

The Nad C350 and C352 is a nice enough circuit design, but unfortunately made with mostly low quality parts. Personally, I would rather have the Denon.
Now, this sound a bit like deal-breaker to me. :(
 

Galu

Member
2018-04-17 6:50 pm
Members of this forum seek the highest standards in components, but commensurate with cost restraints.

NAD will manufacture with retail cost in mind and, as jvhb says, they are good on circuit design, having some acclaimed back product!

If you are happy with the performance of the NAD CD player, then why not consider the NAD amplifier?

Cost may be an important factor. If are you being offered the amp at a reasonable price, I would seriously consider buying it.

P.S. I would wait till your small daughter has grown up before getting too up-market with your hi-fi. I had to make sacrifices when my two boys were small and constantly exploring everything they came across!
 

kedud

Member
2022-01-19 2:42 pm
Welcome to the forum!

Being a DIY forum, members are more likely to be orientated towards helping you fix your Denon than comparing its specs with those of the NAD.

The NAD is a more recent model than the Denon, but is also out of production. I trust you have tested the one you are considering, and are sure that it doesn't have issues of its own.
Please excuse my dummy request.
I do respect all the members of this forum and I didn't want to offend anyone here.
I just needed a competent and independent advice.

Thank you all for your time and help.
 

Galu

Member
2018-04-17 6:50 pm
I did not intend to suggest that offence might be taken by anyone on this forum. :cool:

I was simply forecasting the direction in which help was likely to be offered.

We are ever eager to help, particularly when it comes to new members. I, for one, would be interested in hearing what decision you have come to regarding the NAD amp.
 

kedud

Member
2022-01-19 2:42 pm
Still not sure which amp would be the better option for me, when it comes to sounding.

Some say the NAD has a lot of bass, other that the Denon is too bright.

I was thinking the Denon is dual-mono, but than I got this as a hint from a member in another forum:

Two transformers are used not for the individual power of each channel, as one would think. The one thing cause such decision is a cheaper price and easiest of producing two small transformers than big one.
 
NAD and Denon are too cutting edge, Denon is the better of the two.
Buy a Philips or any Japanese set, except Denon, Onkyo and Yamaha.

And put the things high up out of reach.

When my son was small, not even able to speak, he used to draw on the walls with pencil.
My wife scolded him, I jokingly said use color pencils instead, thinking he was too young to understand...
Guess what?
Came home from shopping to find the room with color pencil decoration, all four walls, as high as he could reach.
Should have taken a picture.
Kids....enjoy the time with them, it will not come back again.
 
Since 1999, NAD has been owned by Lenbrook, a private Canadian company owned by the Simmonds family. Immediately on purchasing NAD the Simmonds re-employed some of the famous NAD founders and designers like Dr. Martin L. Borish and Bjørn Erik Edvardsen. After years of underinvestment by the former owners of NAD (HiFi distributor AudioNord AB of Denmark), the Simmonds have restored NAD to its former market position of affordable premium mid to high end hifi. As far as I am aware NAD is still owned by Lenbrook, Lenbrook is still based in Pickering, and Pickering is still in Canada. And yes, NAD amplifiers are often the antidote to weak bass or a bright sounding system.

I can't help with the OP's original proposition as I don't know the Denon PMA-925R amplifier, however IMHO the C352 was not one of NAD's standout products. I have just restored a Denon PMA-540 for a client, and that was every bit as good as I thought it was when I bought one as my first decent amplifier in the late 1970s; it's long since gone from my ownership.
 
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My mistake then, I got the names mixed up.
There is a Chinese company called International Audio Group, which has taken over a lot of UK brands, simply because they can get away with charging multiples of what they would be offered for the goods in their own name.

Samsung has taken over Harman Kardon, and some brands are under HK, so if you check the brands, you will find it is HK, so you say, ah, good stuff.
Then it comes out as Samsung, good, but not super premium...

A bit like Volkswagen, the engine blocks have VW, Audi and Skoda marks on the castings.
So Audi is a dolled up Skoda really.
 

Galu

Member
2018-04-17 6:50 pm
There is a Chinese company called International Audio Group, which has taken over a lot of UK brands, simply because they can get away with charging multiples of what they would be offered for the goods in their own name.

IAG owns such classic hi-fi brands as Wharfedale and Quad.

IAG’s philosophy is to combine British design talent with Chinese manufacturing.

For example, legendary hi-fi designer Peter Comeau curates the above brands at IAG's large factory complex in Shenzhen, China.

Read his take on manufacturing in China here: https://zstereo.co.uk/2018/10/20/peter-comeau/