toroidal inductors tend to have a pretty tight leash on leakage flux. if you do the 'right hand rule' on them, you'll see that the field (at least in theory) cancels itself out.
so the effect is probably minor.
so the effect is probably minor.
Even if the flux was 100% contained within the toroid, there would still be a 'virtual' single turn air-cored coil when you wind a toroid as a single winding. You can wind half the toroid and then take the wire diametrically across to the other side and finish winding the other half. (As seen in the better type of inductors on some SMPSUs). This cancels out most of the 'virtual single turn' effect.
(Bruno Putzeys for example stresses this point quite often. I know he frowns upon toroids that are not co-planar to the pcb).
So basically, in your photo, from the mutual coupling point of view, you have a number of single-turn air-cored inductors in line. There will be some coupling but I doubt if it will cause any problem.
(Bruno Putzeys for example stresses this point quite often. I know he frowns upon toroids that are not co-planar to the pcb).
So basically, in your photo, from the mutual coupling point of view, you have a number of single-turn air-cored inductors in line. There will be some coupling but I doubt if it will cause any problem.
Winding toroids in two opposed "runs" as encouraged by some authors does *not* solve the parasitistic turn problem at all. It just produces an eight-shaped dipole. Near field improvement on leakage flux is marginal, except exactly on the perpendicular axis where flux cancellation arises. Furthermore, far field leakage flux in toroids is negligible so no improvement is easily measurable either.
Don't worry that much about these toroids.
Don't worry that much about these toroids.
Would this configuration solve the issue?Ouroboros said:Even if the flux was 100% contained within the toroid, there would still be a 'virtual' single turn air-cored coil when you wind a toroid as a single winding.
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if you compute the inductance as 2 series inductors and wind them at 180 degrees they will cancel each other (the fields from each single turn air inductor). Am i right ?
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