Worked on a new amp over break. It's not 100% done (missing some resistors) but here's a shot of the wiring to last you until then 🙂
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Hi,
Really nice job. Neat wiring for sure. That is one hell of choke!!
Hope it sounds good for you.
Rob
Really nice job. Neat wiring for sure. That is one hell of choke!!
Hope it sounds good for you.
Rob
Nice job, you'll need to protect the cathode/filament insulation of the 6922 during warm up though - it won't like a 200V+ differential across it. (Even worse if you need to elevate the filaments and depending on whether your B+ is SS rectified or not.)
You can use a simple NE-2 neon lamp between cathode and ground to do this. It will glow until the voltage at the cathodes drops to about -40V or so and then will extinguish, leaving effectively a very small capacitance to ground at that node. (pFs worth, and less than a few inches of wiring.)
You can use a simple NE-2 neon lamp between cathode and ground to do this. It will glow until the voltage at the cathodes drops to about -40V or so and then will extinguish, leaving effectively a very small capacitance to ground at that node. (pFs worth, and less than a few inches of wiring.)
All right. Where can I grab a lamp like that? Someone on AudioKarma also suggested using a small switching diode, with its cathode to the 6922 cathodes. I didn't quite understand why before, but does it also protect the tube during warmup?
Hi Soren,
You can buy neon lamps at most Radio Shack stores last time I checked. They are also available from Mouser and Digikey, either NE-2 or NE-2H will work fine.
The diode will work too, but I prefer the neon in this application. In the past I have used generally similar designs to what you came up with. In a case where the operating voltage on the cathode is positive enough in normal operation to light the neon I used a normally reverse biased diode in series with the neon. This covers just about all possible scenarios..
You can buy neon lamps at most Radio Shack stores last time I checked. They are also available from Mouser and Digikey, either NE-2 or NE-2H will work fine.
The diode will work too, but I prefer the neon in this application. In the past I have used generally similar designs to what you came up with. In a case where the operating voltage on the cathode is positive enough in normal operation to light the neon I used a normally reverse biased diode in series with the neon. This covers just about all possible scenarios..
Thanks! I think my 6922's (actually 6N23P's) are biased at around 5V, which probably won't light the lamp, right? In any case, I bet those diodes are dirt cheap so I'll just grab a couple in case.
Hi Soren,
Yes the neons will work just fine by themselves, no diodes needed in this case. (Just the nude bulb with no resistor, i.e. not a panel lamp or anything.)
Yes the neons will work just fine by themselves, no diodes needed in this case. (Just the nude bulb with no resistor, i.e. not a panel lamp or anything.)
Hey Nick...
Looking forward to seeing you and Andrea at Louis on Saturday night.
I've been meaning to ask you about your latest moniker? 😉
Anyway back to tubes, hopefully you'll make it to the next NNETG meet. 😀 😀
Kevin
Looking forward to seeing you and Andrea at Louis on Saturday night.
I've been meaning to ask you about your latest moniker? 😉
Anyway back to tubes, hopefully you'll make it to the next NNETG meet. 😀 😀
Kevin
grabbed some small switching type diodes out of a RadioShack (didn't see anything marked NE-2), and want to double-check real quick before I wire them in.
they're 1N914 or 1N4148 type silicon switching diodes. look kosher?
http://www.vishay.com/docs/85622/1n914.pdf
they're 1N914 or 1N4148 type silicon switching diodes. look kosher?
http://www.vishay.com/docs/85622/1n914.pdf
They'll work fine.. Try to see if you can eventually find some neon lamps. You might have to order some from mouser or digikey.
Thanks, I'll do that. I also notice the screen wires in my 6P14P's glowing a bit in certain places. Is this bad? Could I wire some zeners in along with the 220R 2W screen resistors to reduce current? My operating point seems reasonable, 320V 38mA per tube.. Alternatively, could I just increase the value of the screen resistors?
I tend to ignore the glow, it hasn't caused any problems so far with 6P14P in my two infrequently used commercial EL84 amplifiers which both run at way over 400V and as much as 50mA per tube.. (Old Realistic and a modded Scott.) It is probably symptomatic of slightly exceeding the tube's ratings, something commonly done to EL84 in a lot of vintage amplifiers. Your operating point is quite conservative compared to many, but that doesn't mean the tube is running within its max ratings - it probably isn't.. 😀 I'd leave it and wait for concrete signs of trouble which may never come. No I wouldn't use zeners in the screens..
All right. I stuck the diodes in there and replaced the run of twisted cat-5 to the left channel with shielded cable and the amp is as quiet as a mouse. I'm blasting Dubnobasswithmyheadman and having a pretty good time. On to the next amp I have some Z565's, a PA774, a couple 80uF 370VAC motor runs, zero money, and too much time on my hands. 6V6 monoblocks maybe?
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