( I am here to happily introduce a new 8" full range speaker from L CAO in China. The following is a translation from L CAO's post at http://www.diybuy.net/thread-140180-1-1.html. )
After three years, finally the 8" full range speaker is fledged. I can still recall those days when I was looking for material to build the paper cone, recall the numerous miles left behind just for several types that met my requirement. They were manually cold-processed, decomposing in 3 months and yielding long fibers. This was only the first step.
The second step was to determine the cone shape. I modified it many times before getting satisfactory result.
The third step was to experiment on other components of the speaker. I can't recall how many different combinations I have tried; what I can recall is that I have experimented on 10 different voice coils.
Many people had listened to it. They gave me many valuable critics and suggestions. The design was not finalized until most of them felt it was satisfactory.
Features
Magnet: type Y30,Diameter 130mm (5.1"), height 15mm (19/32")
T shaped iron core is machined from a block.
Symmetric magnet circuit, with shorting ring to suppress distortion.
Voice coil bobbin is made from special material. Diameter 25mm (1")
Frame is made of Aluminum-Magnesium alloy.
Spider is cold press shaped. Overall, one spider is picked from 3.
Measures
Power 30W
Impedance 8 Ohms
Xmax 1.8mm
Sensitivity 94DB
Resonant frequency 55Hz
Qts: 0.65
Vas: 70 liters
Speaker in cabinet
Speaker in cabinet with equalizer
Equalizer
Distortion of speaker in cabinet with equalizer
After three years, finally the 8" full range speaker is fledged. I can still recall those days when I was looking for material to build the paper cone, recall the numerous miles left behind just for several types that met my requirement. They were manually cold-processed, decomposing in 3 months and yielding long fibers. This was only the first step.
The second step was to determine the cone shape. I modified it many times before getting satisfactory result.
The third step was to experiment on other components of the speaker. I can't recall how many different combinations I have tried; what I can recall is that I have experimented on 10 different voice coils.
Many people had listened to it. They gave me many valuable critics and suggestions. The design was not finalized until most of them felt it was satisfactory.
Features
Magnet: type Y30,Diameter 130mm (5.1"), height 15mm (19/32")
T shaped iron core is machined from a block.
Symmetric magnet circuit, with shorting ring to suppress distortion.
Voice coil bobbin is made from special material. Diameter 25mm (1")
Frame is made of Aluminum-Magnesium alloy.
Spider is cold press shaped. Overall, one spider is picked from 3.
Measures
Power 30W
Impedance 8 Ohms
Xmax 1.8mm
Sensitivity 94DB
Resonant frequency 55Hz
Qts: 0.65
Vas: 70 liters
Speaker in cabinet
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Speaker in cabinet with equalizer
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Equalizer
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Distortion of speaker in cabinet with equalizer
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Some pictures
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Packaging: cone protector
Bottom foam
Top foam
Here are some pictures. The original post is http://www.diybuy.net/thread-142365-1-1.html.(One must be logged to view the post at diybuy.net)
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Packaging: cone protector
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Bottom foam
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Top foam
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HighVividity said:( I am here to happily introduce a new 8" full range speaker from L CAO in China. The following is a translation from L CAO's post at http://www.diybuy.net/thread-140180-1-1.html. )
Features
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Overall, one spider is picked from 3.
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If the meaning is that the factory rejects 2/3 of its product then that seems indicative of out-of-control production processes.
Caveat emptor!
good job! guy
very nice full range speaker.i have listened this speaker sound really beautiful.recommend
very nice full range speaker.i have listened this speaker sound really beautiful.recommend
Re: Re: New 8" full range speaker from L CAO
Typical comment, trying to rubbish Chinese product.
If you don't know either ask or keep quiet, don't make wild guesses here.
Brisso57 said:
If the meaning is that the factory rejects 2/3 of its product then that seems indicative of out-of-control production processes.
Caveat emptor!
Typical comment, trying to rubbish Chinese product.
If you don't know either ask or keep quiet, don't make wild guesses here.
Re: Re: Re: New 8" full range speaker from L CAO
OK. Fine.
The literal meaning is as commented. Is this correct? Are 2/3 of the production spiders rejected as substandard?
It's quite a relevant question actually.
PS "Typical" of whom? Someone outside the cheer-squad? If a statement is made, let it be defended. That's how it is in democracies.
ttan98 said:
Typical comment, trying to rubbish Chinese product.
If you don't know either ask or keep quiet, don't make wild guesses here.
OK. Fine.
The literal meaning is as commented. Is this correct? Are 2/3 of the production spiders rejected as substandard?
It's quite a relevant question actually.
PS "Typical" of whom? Someone outside the cheer-squad? If a statement is made, let it be defended. That's how it is in democracies.
A review by DIY99
By DIY99, You do not need to be logged in to view. It is in Chinese but you can read the pictures.
http://bbs.hifidiy.net/viewthread.php?tid=144683&extra=page%3D1&page=1
By DIY99, You do not need to be logged in to view. It is in Chinese but you can read the pictures.
http://bbs.hifidiy.net/viewthread.php?tid=144683&extra=page%3D1&page=1
His experimental driver with field coil
Again, It is in Chinese. You do not need to be logged to view the pictures. There are detailed photos about the magnet circuit and voice coil. There is a picture of his experimental Alnico version too.
field coil experiment
Again, It is in Chinese. You do not need to be logged to view the pictures. There are detailed photos about the magnet circuit and voice coil. There is a picture of his experimental Alnico version too.
field coil experiment
Re: Re: Re: Re: New 8" full range speaker from L CAO
Thank you for your comments. I will direct your question to L CAO. I hope he can give you some answers soon.
Brisso57 said:
OK. Fine.
The literal meaning is as commented. Is this correct? Are 2/3 of the production spiders rejected as substandard?
It's quite a relevant question actually.
PS "Typical" of whom? Someone outside the cheer-squad? If a statement is made, let it be defended. That's how it is in democracies.
Thank you for your comments. I will direct your question to L CAO. I hope he can give you some answers soon.
About price
He has not set the price for exporting yet. The price in China yields excellent price/performance ratio.
He has not set the price for exporting yet. The price in China yields excellent price/performance ratio.
HighVividity said:
Thank you for your comments. I will direct your question to L CAO. I hope he can give you some answers soon.
I asked L CAO and he said the spiders were manufactured by others for him, and only the best were picked to ensure the quality of his drivers.
cd813 said:i know the price is about 200USD/pairs
The price in China is 1500 RMB. with a current exchange ratio of 6.87, it is $218.34 a pair. But the shipping will add an appreciable chunk to that price.
HighVividity said:
They gave me many valuable critics and suggestions.[/IMG]
Thanks for the detailed measurements, but with relatively high Q peaks in the consonant and especially in the sibilance BWs, at USA pricing these would have to be addressed before I would want to spend any quality time with them.
GM
GM said:
Thanks for the detailed measurements, but with relatively high Q peaks in the consonant and especially in the sibilance BWs, at USA pricing these would have to be addressed before I would want to spend any quality time with them.
GM
Thank you for your comments. Are you referring to the lump between 1KHz and 5KHz before equalizing network is applied? Please help me here because I do not know whether using an equalizer is a good idea or bad idea. Thank you!
You're welcome! I'm referring to the peaks at ~2.5, 4, and particularly at 7 kHz in this plot: http://www.wintersweet.com/permanent/LCAO_equalized
These are acoustic problems that need an acoustic solution (selective doping and/or some form of phase plug and/or ?), so no broadband EQ should be used IMO.
GM
These are acoustic problems that need an acoustic solution (selective doping and/or some form of phase plug and/or ?), so no broadband EQ should be used IMO.
GM
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