First i want to say hello to everyone! Im new here. 🙂
Im electrical engineering student and i have some interests in amplifiers.
I want to build "ZCA amplifier" it's class A. Problem is, i can't get 2sk1058!
Im beginner in this world, but i learn quick.. 🙂
Yesterday i pulled of two pairs of irfz44n from old pcb, and i found a lot of irf630 in box from old projects.
I started with basic schematics from.. link^^
I have done some simulations with these and i will post it in atachments.
But i have several questions for this design.
Do i need 24v supply? Can i get just 12v without 40w resistor?
Can i put this two mosfets in parallel to get more performance, curent and beter heat disipation??
Is pc power supply enough to power this amplifier?
I'm planing to build stereo version! I have several transformers laying around, case! Hopefully i will put together some decent amplifier. 🙂
Thank you for any kind of resposne!
Im electrical engineering student and i have some interests in amplifiers.
I want to build "ZCA amplifier" it's class A. Problem is, i can't get 2sk1058!
Im beginner in this world, but i learn quick.. 🙂
Yesterday i pulled of two pairs of irfz44n from old pcb, and i found a lot of irf630 in box from old projects.
I started with basic schematics from.. link^^
I have done some simulations with these and i will post it in atachments.
But i have several questions for this design.
Do i need 24v supply? Can i get just 12v without 40w resistor?
Can i put this two mosfets in parallel to get more performance, curent and beter heat disipation??
Is pc power supply enough to power this amplifier?
I'm planing to build stereo version! I have several transformers laying around, case! Hopefully i will put together some decent amplifier. 🙂
Thank you for any kind of resposne!
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Why don't you contact the designer, Mark Houston, via his website reference or PM here?
Lateral Mosfets like 2SK1058 can be replaced by EXICON ECX10N20 (Lateral MOSFET | Profusion Audio Design
or identical ALFET products from Magnatech (SEMELAB) Magnatec. ALFET Lateral MOSFETs
(Farnell are also agents: Transistors - MOSFET's (< 600V) | Farnell element14)
Type ALF08N16V is the match.
Lateral Mosfets like 2SK1058 can be replaced by EXICON ECX10N20 (Lateral MOSFET | Profusion Audio Design
or identical ALFET products from Magnatech (SEMELAB) Magnatec. ALFET Lateral MOSFETs
(Farnell are also agents: Transistors - MOSFET's (< 600V) | Farnell element14)
Type ALF08N16V is the match.
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You have shown a single ended amplifier (SE).
The maximum output is approximately 1/3rd of the supply rail voltage.
i.e. with a 24Vdc supply your maximum output is ~8Vac
When you add on a load the maximum output voltage drops, maybe ~6Vac trying to drive an 8ohms load
The maximum power from 24Vdc will be very approximately 5W (6Vac² / 8ohms)
At anything above half maximum voltage the 2nd harmonic will become gross.
So for clean power expect 2W to 3W as a reasonable maximum.
For a 5W amplifier you don't need dual output devices.
Assuming you have 12.1V across the three drain resistors, you have a bias current of 12.1/{5.6+5.6+5.6} = 0.72A
The total dissipation in the three resistors is 0.72A*12.1V = 8.7W (use 5W or 7W or 10W resistors)
The mosFET dissipation is also 8.7W (use a 2C/W sink per device). That should keep your sink below 55°C during summer (Ta=30°C).
0.72A through an 8ohms load needs 5.76Vpk. That is 2W. The bias of 0.72A cannot drive an 8ohms load. It needs a 16ohms load just for non reactive operation.
The maximum output is approximately 1/3rd of the supply rail voltage.
i.e. with a 24Vdc supply your maximum output is ~8Vac
When you add on a load the maximum output voltage drops, maybe ~6Vac trying to drive an 8ohms load
The maximum power from 24Vdc will be very approximately 5W (6Vac² / 8ohms)
At anything above half maximum voltage the 2nd harmonic will become gross.
So for clean power expect 2W to 3W as a reasonable maximum.
For a 5W amplifier you don't need dual output devices.
Assuming you have 12.1V across the three drain resistors, you have a bias current of 12.1/{5.6+5.6+5.6} = 0.72A
The total dissipation in the three resistors is 0.72A*12.1V = 8.7W (use 5W or 7W or 10W resistors)
The mosFET dissipation is also 8.7W (use a 2C/W sink per device). That should keep your sink below 55°C during summer (Ta=30°C).
0.72A through an 8ohms load needs 5.76Vpk. That is 2W. The bias of 0.72A cannot drive an 8ohms load. It needs a 16ohms load just for non reactive operation.
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I will be happy if i get 5 wats, it's enough for my personal use.
And i have stocked some ceramic resistors (5w, 7w, 10w, 15w), that part is solved. 🙂
Is it beter to use transformer ( 19vDc (2.5amps)) or smps (pc supply), somehow i will crank it's 12v rails..
Thank you for answering. 🙂
And i have stocked some ceramic resistors (5w, 7w, 10w, 15w), that part is solved. 🙂
Is it beter to use transformer ( 19vDc (2.5amps)) or smps (pc supply), somehow i will crank it's 12v rails..
Thank you for answering. 🙂
Hallo techno.
Hope this can inspire you a bit in direction you will go.
I catchet that Franse PDF because i am like also the 5-25W power range.
AndrewT could take a little observe view to this, i think L'Audiophile Magazin Amp?https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwTS40IaQa16eFNSd05OejBXQk0/view?pli=1
Main Page:6.9.7- Les Schemas Single End- scroll near down to: Le SingleMos
2x6,5W- it is with SK1058.
Hope it works.
https://sites.google.com/site/francisaudio69/6-l-amplificateur/6-9-schemas
The ZCA i have build for testing- all done like Marks project and lowered the
1M Resistor to 470k - sounds better. After paralleling the 470k with 220k it is now 150k and comes a bit magic in sound, but not real satisfying- missed a bit in top end highs. Staging is surprisingly good.
Why don't build the very nice ACA?- Boards are here in Store available.
So you have Reference to comparing.
Cheers Bangla.
Hope this can inspire you a bit in direction you will go.
I catchet that Franse PDF because i am like also the 5-25W power range.
AndrewT could take a little observe view to this, i think L'Audiophile Magazin Amp?https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwTS40IaQa16eFNSd05OejBXQk0/view?pli=1
Main Page:6.9.7- Les Schemas Single End- scroll near down to: Le SingleMos
2x6,5W- it is with SK1058.
Hope it works.
https://sites.google.com/site/francisaudio69/6-l-amplificateur/6-9-schemas
The ZCA i have build for testing- all done like Marks project and lowered the
1M Resistor to 470k - sounds better. After paralleling the 470k with 220k it is now 150k and comes a bit magic in sound, but not real satisfying- missed a bit in top end highs. Staging is surprisingly good.
Why don't build the very nice ACA?- Boards are here in Store available.
So you have Reference to comparing.
Cheers Bangla.
Hello, techn0!
What is the result of your experiment? Which max power have you managed to achieve?
Regards,
Andrew.
What is the result of your experiment? Which max power have you managed to achieve?
Regards,
Andrew.
You have shown a single ended amplifier (SE).
The maximum output is approximately 1/3rd of the supply rail voltage.
i.e. with a 24Vdc supply your maximum output is ~8Vac
When you add on a load the maximum output voltage drops, maybe ~6Vac trying to drive an 8ohms load
The maximum power from 24Vdc will be very approximately 5W (6Vac² / 8ohms)
At anything above half maximum voltage the 2nd harmonic will become gross.
So for clean power expect 2W to 3W as a reasonable maximum.
For a 5W amplifier you don't need dual output devices.
Assuming you have 12.1V across the three drain resistors, you have a bias current of 12.1/{5.6+5.6+5.6} = 0.72A
The total dissipation in the three resistors is 0.72A*12.1V = 8.7W (use 5W or 7W or 10W resistors)
The mosFET dissipation is also 8.7W (use a 2C/W sink per device). That should keep your sink below 55°C during summer (Ta=30°C).
0.72A through an 8ohms load needs 5.76Vpk. That is 2W. The bias of 0.72A cannot drive an 8ohms load. It needs a 16ohms load just for non reactive operation.
Mate, thanks for the info and calcs . My MCA is a betterr beast and really just as simple.
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