Hello out there, does anyone know if a version of the Pensil housing for the Alpair 5 Gen2 exists? Where can i get it? Thanks for reply.
There is no Pensil for the A5.2, but Scott has designed an ML-TL somewhat similar to a pencil. We have built it and performance is good (just a touch less so than the Frugel-Horn Lite)
http://wodendesign.com/downloads/Giraffe-A52-MLTL-0v99-081015.pdf
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http://wodendesign.com/downloads/Giraffe-A52-MLTL-0v99-081015.pdf
dave
Great, many thanks Dave and Scott. Will upload some pictures when done. First, buy a pair of Alpair 5 on ebay. Greets
Several months ago I built at least 5 different enclosure designs for the A5.2, including the Giraffes. Having been a big fan of Scott's Pensils and the like for years, I'd be remiss in not saying that if your floor space will allow, the FH lite is well worth a look as well.
I've build quite a few examples of every model in the FH family, and while none are as simple a build as an MLTL for the same driver, I do think they outperform them several ways.
Whichever design you choose, some suggestions:
- it should be considered mandatory to both countersink all of Mark's thick bezeled drivers - but not the new CHS70/Pluvia 7, or the lower priced and less refined CHN70 - , and to chamfer the rear side of driver cutout as deeply as material will allow.
- a decent grade plywood "Baltic birch" etc is worth every extra dollar / Euro spent
- the drivers will take quite a few hours to fully break- in, so assessment of damping fill levels should be made after the 200+ hr point. Yes, that does mean some temporary arrangement to seal one side ( or in the case of MLTLs, the backs) during this interim
I've build quite a few examples of every model in the FH family, and while none are as simple a build as an MLTL for the same driver, I do think they outperform them several ways.
Whichever design you choose, some suggestions:
- it should be considered mandatory to both countersink all of Mark's thick bezeled drivers - but not the new CHS70/Pluvia 7, or the lower priced and less refined CHN70 - , and to chamfer the rear side of driver cutout as deeply as material will allow.
- a decent grade plywood "Baltic birch" etc is worth every extra dollar / Euro spent
- the drivers will take quite a few hours to fully break- in, so assessment of damping fill levels should be made after the 200+ hr point. Yes, that does mean some temporary arrangement to seal one side ( or in the case of MLTLs, the backs) during this interim
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Thanks for hints Chrisb. Actually i'm also interested in the FrugelHorn but first i'm not very good in woodwork, second they have to be put in front of a wall max 15 cm between wall and back of the loudspeaker. Anyway, maybe i'll givem them a shot this year. Greets
The cute little design of Scott's that Dave posted above is well worth a look. They are a much simpler build than the curved sided FHs, with a very compact footprint that makes for very easy placement - mind you they can be a bit tippy, so an extended base plate, outriggers, or a stone tile plinth for ballast would be a wise plan.
Sorry Scottmoose, couldn't resist..........😀
While the Alpair-Driver is beginning with break-in phase yesterday, i'm using the SB Acoustics SB65WBAC25-4.
For that size of speaker impressive Bass down to the mid 50th and overall a comfortable listening experience.
i'm tempted to build a second giraffe for that driver.🙂
While the Alpair-Driver is beginning with break-in phase yesterday, i'm using the SB Acoustics SB65WBAC25-4.
For that size of speaker impressive Bass down to the mid 50th and overall a comfortable listening experience.
i'm tempted to build a second giraffe for that driver.🙂
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well maybe I'll beat Scott to saying this - if using a different driver than for which originally designed, it might well sound decent enough, but wouldn't technically be a Giraffe
In my eyes, it's a Giraffe. A cabinet design is just a description of dimensions, how deep, width and so on, with a specific driver in mind, that was given a name. If you put 'a wrong' driver in it, it's still the same cabinet. How do you call a FrugelHorn Lite with the Alpair 5 Gen2 in it?
How do you call a FrugelHorn Lite with the Alpair 5 Gen2
Frugel-Horn Lite with Alpair 5.2
But all the frugel-horns have been designed for multiple drivers.
dave
won't disagree that a cabinet with a driver different from that for which the designer may have optimized / least compromised it will still be the same enclosure, and the performance may well be acceptable; but - and maybe I'm out of line unofficially "speaking on Scott's behalf", or simply being overly nit-picky - when a drawing states "for Alpair 5.2" or whatever, referring to that design by the same name when using a different driver delivering different performance results could misrepresent the original designer's intention.
yah, I know, sometimes I just get wound up over the silliest details. - mea culpa
yah, I know, sometimes I just get wound up over the silliest details. - mea culpa
Understand your point of view, but, to be honest, still not convinced. Nevertheless i will respect that for further posts.
i'm tempted to build a second giraffe for that driver.🙂
Please read as: similiar design as a Giraffe
Depends. On room placement, room, tastes. We find very little need for BSC on any speaker (althou in a lot of them it is taken care of acoustically in the design). Our Giraffes have always been used wired directly to the amp.
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