I am working on a project to convert an old dance hall w/balcony into a live music club. The starting sound is super hot/live and my goal is to deaden as much as possible.
The wall height is ~26' from the wood dance floor to ceiling. My vision is to make 4x8 boxes with 1x8x8 pine, with center support, and fill with rockwool. I assume I can double up the 4" rockwool to fill the void). I plan to cover in muslin and hang from ceiling 8" off the wall.
Should I alternate heights to compensate for the taller ceiling? What would be a good square footage of deadening panels that I should start with? Lastly, can I suspend these from ceiling/flat in the center at various areas to reduce reflection from ceiling?
Wall material is brick on 3-sides, and drywall on opposite of stage. It is a rectangular room 40'x100'x26' tall.
Goal to reduce as much reflection as possible (I will work on corner bass traps after testing room).
I suspect I will be coming here with many questions as I learn this process.
The wall height is ~26' from the wood dance floor to ceiling. My vision is to make 4x8 boxes with 1x8x8 pine, with center support, and fill with rockwool. I assume I can double up the 4" rockwool to fill the void). I plan to cover in muslin and hang from ceiling 8" off the wall.
Should I alternate heights to compensate for the taller ceiling? What would be a good square footage of deadening panels that I should start with? Lastly, can I suspend these from ceiling/flat in the center at various areas to reduce reflection from ceiling?
Wall material is brick on 3-sides, and drywall on opposite of stage. It is a rectangular room 40'x100'x26' tall.
Goal to reduce as much reflection as possible (I will work on corner bass traps after testing room).
I suspect I will be coming here with many questions as I learn this process.
at 104 thousand cubic feet and no measurement of RT60 for the space i'd estimate that reverb time is like a hockey arena at 2.6 or greater seconds and absorption down to 160 hz is required to achieve the perception of "dead", that would mean that 3/4 of the surface area needs to be covered with mostly anechoic deadening...think anechoic chamber....material cost....priceless = very high....i hope that whatever entertainment your intending to run is going to offset the expenditure!!!
Hi,
Yes your situation is not easy.
There is some guys around here which are good about this kind of situation ( Jon Boccani or Disco Pete? i can't remember but it is a canadian guy iirc which is specialised in disco/club setup).
Have you seen this ?:
https://www.diyaudio.com/forums/room-acoustics-and-mods/367170-dnb-pa-system.html#post6523585
Worth a read imho despite it's not the latest news.
Yes your situation is not easy.
There is some guys around here which are good about this kind of situation ( Jon Boccani or Disco Pete? i can't remember but it is a canadian guy iirc which is specialised in disco/club setup).
Have you seen this ?:
https://www.diyaudio.com/forums/room-acoustics-and-mods/367170-dnb-pa-system.html#post6523585
Worth a read imho despite it's not the latest news.
What is your parts and materials budget for this project? Who has to approve the results when finished?
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What kind of music will be performed?: Rock, country, jazz, "smooth" jazz, metal?
How loud do you want the music?
Will you have an installed system, or will musicians bring their own?
Will there be a dance floor, or tables, or a combination?
How high and how large will the stage be?
What is the current construction/finish of the ceiling and flooring?
With this information, I might be able to offer some suggestions. I did the acoustics and sound systems of a few nightclubs back before I decided to work mostly in recording.
How loud do you want the music?
Will you have an installed system, or will musicians bring their own?
Will there be a dance floor, or tables, or a combination?
How high and how large will the stage be?
What is the current construction/finish of the ceiling and flooring?
With this information, I might be able to offer some suggestions. I did the acoustics and sound systems of a few nightclubs back before I decided to work mostly in recording.
I'm no expert in this kind of sound deadening but what comes to mind is the deadness in a new house under construction that just had insulation installed but not yet drywalled. Very anechoic. It could be quite cost effective to line everything with R-20 rockwool or even fiberglas pink and cover that with some kind of fabric like upholstery. Probably about $20 grand or so.
well we wouldn't want another Station nightclub fire The Station nightclub fire - Wikipedia
so i would steer clear of fabric finishes...
a public venue is going to need fire safe materials.
Decor and furniture and perhaps overhead diffusers would be the best approach and an easier sell to the venue owner he gets the best of both worlds acoustic treatment and visual decor/esthetics.
so i would steer clear of fabric finishes...
a public venue is going to need fire safe materials.
Decor and furniture and perhaps overhead diffusers would be the best approach and an easier sell to the venue owner he gets the best of both worlds acoustic treatment and visual decor/esthetics.
Lots of inexpensive fire retardant materials available. Rockwool is a fire retardant by nature. I don't see any problem in that regard. Even with fireworks. 🙂
I’ve seen similar volumes where a series of cube-shaped absorber/reflectors were used.
They were made from some acoustic wood fiber panels, and suspended at odd angles, varying heights.
Something like this, but purchased through different channels;
Timberwool™ Wood Fiber Acoustic Panels - Second Skin Audio
They were made from some acoustic wood fiber panels, and suspended at odd angles, varying heights.
Something like this, but purchased through different channels;
Timberwool™ Wood Fiber Acoustic Panels - Second Skin Audio