No easy way to start the discussion, but what level of hell must these folks be going through? https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2023/...re-crews-continue-battle-wind-whipped-flames/
To those of us who’ve visited Maui, and enjoyed the delightful charms of eateries and tourist shops in old town Lahaina, time to backup your archived photos.
To those of us who’ve visited Maui, and enjoyed the delightful charms of eateries and tourist shops in old town Lahaina, time to backup your archived photos.
This phenomena is occurring around the globe with such rapidly escalating frequency- many of them in my own home province - that historical records are being demolished almost monthly. I’ve just always had a soft spot for Maui in general, and particularly that charming little whaling outpost on the north west coast.
Very sad.
GAIA fighting back against humans running rampant on the world.
Sadly the worst is yet to come.
dave
GAIA fighting back against humans running rampant on the world.
Sadly the worst is yet to come.
dave
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The vids on the news do make it look like a living hell. Condolences to the families of the lost ones and to those who lost only property. This will be a long recovery.
OTOH, all but one person I know on Maui has reported in saying they are not hurt and have not lost anything.
No rain expected until Friday. Fingers crossed.
OTOH, all but one person I know on Maui has reported in saying they are not hurt and have not lost anything.
No rain expected until Friday. Fingers crossed.
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Sorry to break this to you, but count me among the cohort don’t think those sentiments are necessarily wrong.
Hawaii is burning, pray for them.
Spain has also been burning. California, western US. BC is having another record fire season… almost seems a new one set every 2 or 3 years. Alberta has had lots of fires too. Lots of the boreal forest going up. Some of that recent smoke made it over the Atlantic to Europe.
Seems either too little or too much water (after one of those horrific fire seasons, we had a significant flood). Floods in Boston today, Slovenia reecently.
Now we add Hawaii to the growing list. :^(
dave
Spain has also been burning. California, western US. BC is having another record fire season… almost seems a new one set every 2 or 3 years. Alberta has had lots of fires too. Lots of the boreal forest going up. Some of that recent smoke made it over the Atlantic to Europe.
Seems either too little or too much water (after one of those horrific fire seasons, we had a significant flood). Floods in Boston today, Slovenia reecently.
Now we add Hawaii to the growing list. :^(
dave
Not sure about the status of the fighters, but Maui’s not huge so I would think that fighters are there from Kahului, Wailuku and Kihei to chip in. Not to mention island hopping flights could bring in fighters from other islands In short order.
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Big Island has fires too. I'm hoping that the western states can send help, unfortunately we have lots of firefighters with experience
I think you guys have already sent your spares up here to British Columbia. We surpassed the record amount of burned timber a month or two ago and still have two months of fire season to go.
While Lahaina is devastated, the only positive note is that up country fires go uphill better than down and the fuel is less as you go up. Those areas are covered in cloud more of the time and will help slow it down as well.
Soon the word unprecedented will become virtually meaningless, or at least replaced by “since last week”. As the ongoing fun and games at stretch of #4 at Cameron Bluff are revealing, the flames stopping is only the start of the problems. When driving along some of these sections, it’s hard not to wonder out loud “how do those up to hundred feet tall trees keep their grip on the rock faces. Turns out, the answer is, barely at all.
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Yes Chris, between the fires and then the rain I hear they closed it again without prior warning to the public.
AVWERK, nice shot. It's amazing how the trees adapt sometimes isn't it? (for those who don't know, Capilano Highlands is part of Metro Vancouver)
AVWERK, nice shot. It's amazing how the trees adapt sometimes isn't it? (for those who don't know, Capilano Highlands is part of Metro Vancouver)
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This has of course got me reminiscing about our several trips there - most recent in 2018. Cal, did you ever venture #340 past the Nakalele Blowhole? We turned back at that point, as the roads to Hana, Haleakala* and LA Parouse Bay were automotive adventure for us on one trip. Lotta blind single lane turns on the road to Hana, but it never rained enough during our stay to worry about the road not being there for the return leg - which sometimes happens. 😵Makes even the old Kennedy Hill section of #4 to Tofino look like a racetrack - which sometimes happens😉
Helicopter tours on separate trips around Hale and particularly the Western hills were money very well spent.
*there are crazy cyclists who pedal up the Red Hill.
Regrettably the loss of life count seems to be rising in Lahaina alone, haven’t seen a lot of coverage about extent of damage on the upcountry slopes.
Helicopter tours on separate trips around Hale and particularly the Western hills were money very well spent.
*there are crazy cyclists who pedal up the Red Hill.
Regrettably the loss of life count seems to be rising in Lahaina alone, haven’t seen a lot of coverage about extent of damage on the upcountry slopes.
Lahaina has the ocean on one side, is relatively densely populated, and really just has the main highway to get in and out. So not good for a big fire.
There is also a lot of history in Lahaina, old buildings that might no longer be there.
We have a timeshare in Kaanapali, just north on Lahaina. Was there last April. I can't imagine what its going to look like the next time we go.
Randy
There is also a lot of history in Lahaina, old buildings that might no longer be there.
We have a timeshare in Kaanapali, just north on Lahaina. Was there last April. I can't imagine what its going to look like the next time we go.
Randy
Mother Nature sure is cleaning house.
Eventually this chapter in natural history will pass. Overpopulation is the problem. This problem will be rectified and there's nothing we can do about it.
I remember when I was a kid on the South Side of Chicago. It was the 1960s and the air quality was abysmal. I clearly remember the smell of gasoline, diesel exhaust, and chemicals in the air. It was awful, but we cleaned it up.
That was nothing compared to the clouds of acrid sun blocking smoke that's coming from thousands of miles away now. There isn't a damn thing we can do about it either. We need every leaf on every tree for our continued survival. If this trend doesn't stop, we are doomed.
It's time to pay the piper.
Eventually this chapter in natural history will pass. Overpopulation is the problem. This problem will be rectified and there's nothing we can do about it.
I remember when I was a kid on the South Side of Chicago. It was the 1960s and the air quality was abysmal. I clearly remember the smell of gasoline, diesel exhaust, and chemicals in the air. It was awful, but we cleaned it up.
That was nothing compared to the clouds of acrid sun blocking smoke that's coming from thousands of miles away now. There isn't a damn thing we can do about it either. We need every leaf on every tree for our continued survival. If this trend doesn't stop, we are doomed.
It's time to pay the piper.
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