As discussed in the original Krell KSA-100mkII thread (http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=78129), I decided to start GB for toroidal transformers for the project to get better pricing from Toroid Corporation of Maryland (www.toroid.com). This is transformer for dual mono version of the amplifier.
Transformer should have electrostatic and magnetic shield and have following windings:
Primaries: 110/120 – dual for 110, 120 220 and 240V mains
Secondaries:
2*38V*12A(under full 12A load)/39.5V(no load) – output stage
2*10V*12A(under full 12A load)/10.5V(no load) – output stage extra, for those who’d like to experiment with LC power supply, drive higher impedance load, etc
2*65V*0.8A – “main board” – everything else in audio path (LTP - driver), for regulated PSU
2*15V*0.25A - for protection, soft start windings, etc
I didn’t get final quote, but I’d expect prices in $220 range per transformer (shipment is extra) if 10 or more ordered.
Preliminary specs without 4 extra windings and tap on primaries attached. I'm going to send request for final quote tomorrow morning (3/11/2008 EST time).
I'd like to place an order no later then the end of the next week.
Transformer should have electrostatic and magnetic shield and have following windings:
Primaries: 110/120 – dual for 110, 120 220 and 240V mains
Secondaries:
2*38V*12A(under full 12A load)/39.5V(no load) – output stage
2*10V*12A(under full 12A load)/10.5V(no load) – output stage extra, for those who’d like to experiment with LC power supply, drive higher impedance load, etc
2*65V*0.8A – “main board” – everything else in audio path (LTP - driver), for regulated PSU
2*15V*0.25A - for protection, soft start windings, etc
I didn’t get final quote, but I’d expect prices in $220 range per transformer (shipment is extra) if 10 or more ordered.
Preliminary specs without 4 extra windings and tap on primaries attached. I'm going to send request for final quote tomorrow morning (3/11/2008 EST time).
I'd like to place an order no later then the end of the next week.
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There is a concern that 65V is a bit too high for main board regulated supply, but I decided to keep more options open in exchange of bigger PSU heatsinks. This is open for discussion, may be it is worth to make a tap at 55/10V
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=1451975#post1451975
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=1451975#post1451975
Also for KRELL Clone KSA-50 mkII
😉 Be aware of this transformer is well suited for the KSA-50 clone project too 😉
You have the opportunity to wire it for approx. 29V AC secondary and a universal mains voltage of 110, 120 220, 230 and 240V primary.
This transformer, 1.2 kVA for to be correct is perfect for a 2 ch. stereo amp, but it could also serve as a mains transformer for a 4 ch. bi-wired speaker system (active crossover) if speaker has 8 ohms impedance. Otherwise you will need two transformers for to bi-wire 4 ohms speaker (2 x 2 channels). 🙄
Regards 😎
😉 Be aware of this transformer is well suited for the KSA-50 clone project too 😉
You have the opportunity to wire it for approx. 29V AC secondary and a universal mains voltage of 110, 120 220, 230 and 240V primary.
This transformer, 1.2 kVA for to be correct is perfect for a 2 ch. stereo amp, but it could also serve as a mains transformer for a 4 ch. bi-wired speaker system (active crossover) if speaker has 8 ohms impedance. Otherwise you will need two transformers for to bi-wire 4 ohms speaker (2 x 2 channels). 🙄
Regards 😎
Final quotes from toroid.com:
Auxiliary secondary windings are 10V*0.8A instead of 15V - it seams cheaper to use thicker gauge, that change wire. 10VAC will give unregulated 12VDC each.
I'd like to make an order by Friday, March 21st.
Pricing, Terms and Conditions
Prices are FOB, Salisbury, MD. Terms and conditions as per enclosed form 228 apply unless otherwise agreed upon in writing. Our product warranty is 36 months as per paragraph 8 in the enclosed form 228. Quote is good for 60 days
Quantity- Price ($) each
2- $410.43
5- $302.32
10- $260.97
Delivery time: 1-5 prototypes can ship in 2-3 weeks or less after approval of data sheet. Production volume as agreed upon, shipping currently 4-5 weeks or less after prototype approval, depending on quantity ordered.
Auxiliary secondary windings are 10V*0.8A instead of 15V - it seams cheaper to use thicker gauge, that change wire. 10VAC will give unregulated 12VDC each.
I'd like to make an order by Friday, March 21st.
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Here is more appropriate place for this. How many do you need?pollypocket said:Stolbovoy
Are you taking orders here or on the main page?
Paul
I just talked with Ming (engineer who designed transformer) - the prices include magnetic shield, so quotes are final.
What price level are we at? Assuming we will meet the 10 quantity price level, I am in for 2. Are you accepting Paypal?
thanks,
Paul
thanks,
Paul
Right now we are at 4, but I just got final quote
I'm pretty shure it will be at least 5+, not sure about 10+
PayPal is preferred method of payment (+3%)
stolbovoy - 2
pollypocket -2
I'm pretty shure it will be at least 5+, not sure about 10+
PayPal is preferred method of payment (+3%)
stolbovoy - 2
pollypocket -2
Time flies fast - it is actually March 28thstolbovoy said:
I'd like to make an order by Friday, March 21st.
If shipping to Sweden can be arranged and it's not extreme I'm intrerested in 1 pcs.
I only need 1 to build the KSA 100 Clone ?
I only need 1 to build the KSA 100 Clone ?
I'm planning to use 2. Each of the transformers are capable of continues 12A on main secondaries.
Shipping can be arranged - I'm not sure about price. They will be shipped from Salisbury, MD or from Salisbury, MD to Gaithesburg, MD 20878 to ... or from Salisbury, MD to Alexandria, VA 22314.
Not sure which route will work better for Europe.
I can re-ship using any locally available carrier of your choice.
Weight of each is 22lb
Shipping can be arranged - I'm not sure about price. They will be shipped from Salisbury, MD or from Salisbury, MD to Gaithesburg, MD 20878 to ... or from Salisbury, MD to Alexandria, VA 22314.
Not sure which route will work better for Europe.
I can re-ship using any locally available carrier of your choice.
Weight of each is 22lb
Argh...
Thought I only needed one, guess this project soon will cost same as buying a used KSA 150/250 🙂
Sign me up for 2...
But I need to know the shipping cost before I decide.
What is the weight on them, and I'll check it up.
Thought I only needed one, guess this project soon will cost same as buying a used KSA 150/250 🙂
Sign me up for 2...
But I need to know the shipping cost before I decide.
What is the weight on them, and I'll check it up.
USPS @ $175 with insurance and 45 LBS
Fedex and UPS were Expensive.
I've mailed Floedstrom and asked if he is doing a GB in Europe, but put me up for 2 for the moment.
Fedex and UPS were Expensive.
I've mailed Floedstrom and asked if he is doing a GB in Europe, but put me up for 2 for the moment.
I used Lufthansa cargo back in 2000. They charged about $4 per kg of cargo to ship from Moscow (SVO) to Washindton (IAD). You may try to do something simillar. I'm not sure about taxes and etcFix said:USPS @ $175 with insurance and 45 LBS
Fedex and UPS were Expensive.
I've mailed Floedstrom and asked if he is doing a GB in Europe, but put me up for 2 for the moment.
Looked at the data sheet, and do I really need 2 of them ?
Since there are 2x of every output.
If not needed two, why use two ?
If I want to build the KSA 100 Clone at original specs, is one trafo enough ?
Wasn't the original at 500Va / channel ?
Since there are 2x of every output.
If not needed two, why use two ?
If I want to build the KSA 100 Clone at original specs, is one trafo enough ?
Wasn't the original at 500Va / channel ?
According to the original thread MKII had 900VA per channel. I don't remember all details, but the main reasons for that power raiting are 4Ohm speakers, and fact that transformer produces current only at relatively short time of a full period.Fix said:Looked at the data sheet, and do I really need 2 of them ?
Since there are 2x of every output.
If not needed two, why use two ?
If I want to build the KSA 100 Clone at original specs, is one trafo enough ?
Wasn't the original at 500Va / channel ?
For less demanding load you could probably use one of these
"2x" is actually for "+" and "-" rails
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