How is 25v AC voltage dropped to 10v DC with only a diode based rectifier

I hope I'm posting this in the right place.

I need some help getting my head around this power supply schematic for a Philips CDM2/10 and boards in my B&O CD3300 cd player. The picture is an extract from the decoder board circuit. The +/-10v feeds go to the servo board. The problem is the supply going to the servo board is actually +12 & -13v. At first, I thought it might be a faulty voltage regulator, but the supply doesn’t use any.

The 25v AC comes in from the connections P41 – 4,5,6 and 7 on the right of the schematic.

My question is, how does it reduce 25v AC down to 10v DC with just rectifiers and capacitors? I assume the capacitors in the circuit are there to smooth out the supply. I think each diode should drop the voltage about 0.7v but can’t see how these give a 15v drop in total.

I’ve tested the input AC and it’s actually 20v, measured across the 2 feeds. Did I measure that correctly?

In case it helps, I’ve changed C2397, which was reading OK, when I re-capped all the board a few weeks ago. I did not change C2396 as I couldn’t find an exact replacement. The original is enclosed in a can with one +ve and three -ve connections. I have a new one with the correct voltage and capacitance with one -ve connection. I assume this will work if I connect this to all the relevant grounds.

I’ve tested each of the diodes, in circuit, and each one gives about uf=704mv, c=93nf and Ir = 7uA. I have some new ones on order, but before I change them I wanted to see if I was wasting my time as the problem is elsewhere.
CD3300 power supply schematic.jpg
 
The voltage is not reduced to 10V. The bridge rectifier is connected to 20VAC. And the DC is +10 and -10, total 20V. Since you write you measure +12V and -13V this is perfectly normal. The voltage should be (20V - 2 * 0.7 V) * 1.4. Minus some tolerances and current draw this is what you measure.

Philips calls this +/-10V but as it is unregulated it is just a signal name.

I can't stop saying this, but "recapping" just an entire circuit without clue can do more damage than good.
 
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especially the blue ones
You can blindly / have to replace those Philips blue axial caps. They are probably all dead.
Replacement is easily found.
For all early Philips CD players (and AFAIK the B&O CD part has been sourced from Philips) - they need to be resoldered; whatever they did back then, it certainly was not a great solder job. Not uncommon to find a two-digit number of cold solder joints. IMHO it's best to just resolder all joints before even starting to fix a fault.
 
I think I've pretty much tried all the usual issues; see my detailed thread


This thread was really to educate me on how the voltage could drop to 10v from 25v using diodes.

I'm now going away to have stern words with the player to ask why it still doesn't work 🙂