We have quite some PMs asking for PCBs and kits.
Although we are not quite ready yet, we'll open a GB thread so as not to have to answer individually.
So this thread is for preliminary subscriptions.
We shall only confirm GB and call for payment when we are ready to ship.
First and foremost that we want to offer is a set of quad JFETs matched at operating point.
They are all GR grade, no Idss cherry picking.
Anyone can get them unmatched at eBay.
But matching yield is going to be low unless the matching pool is large (>100 pairs).
Or get matched complementary quads at a premium, if available.
JFETs alone would mean postage would cost an additional ~50%
So we offer our PCBs in addition, as there is little or no additional postage charge.
Again, the alternative is to use the Gerber we published of the original design.
Or get one of the many other designs being offered on the internet.
We want to offer a complete set of PCBs for building a pair of power amps.
For the power supply, we decided in the end against multiple LT3045 in parallel.
There are reports around that paralleling them is not without problems.
On top of that, they add 120USD easily to the overall cost, which we consider excessive.
If you believe the PSU to be critical, build the original with CRC and large caps.
Easier to do P2P wiring and no need for any PCBs.
For normal transformer based PSU, we settle on the LT3081, which is very simple to use.
And we shall test before offering (waiting for PCBs right now).
For best results, we shall use a 15V 1.5A pre-reg, such as L7815, to take out most of the 50Hz ripples.
We intend to use a 4700µF 25V Elcap upstream, and a 1µF MKS02 directly at the IC Pins, all direct P2P solder.
There are much larger caps at the input of the dual LT3081 PSU board.
We always use speaker protection.
The Improved PMA Protection circuit used in the F5Pi is unfortunately not suitable for +/-12V rails.
We already successfully tested a new circuit (XEN SSP3) designed specifically for the purpose.
So the entire standard package will include :
1x matched quad 2SK170GR / 2SJ74GR
2x amplifier PCBs
2x Dual LT3081 PSU PCBs
2x XEN SSP3 PCBs
4x TO220 Rectifier PCBs
100€ incl. EU VAT, excl. Postage
Fran wants to make life easier for those with less experience / equipment.
So we offer a limited number of full Q-sets.
The full package will then include all the above, plus
1x matched quad KSA992 / KSC1845
1x matched quad SS8050 / SS8550 -- preferred for the drivers
1x matched quad TTC5200 / TTA1943
4x TO92 heatsinks for Q3,4 black anodised -- for the drivers
140€ incl. EU VAT, excl. postage
Limited to 10 sets
Those interested please help us to keep a running list by updating yourselves.
Thank you for your interest,
Patrick
Although we are not quite ready yet, we'll open a GB thread so as not to have to answer individually.
So this thread is for preliminary subscriptions.
We shall only confirm GB and call for payment when we are ready to ship.
First and foremost that we want to offer is a set of quad JFETs matched at operating point.
They are all GR grade, no Idss cherry picking.
Anyone can get them unmatched at eBay.
But matching yield is going to be low unless the matching pool is large (>100 pairs).
Or get matched complementary quads at a premium, if available.
JFETs alone would mean postage would cost an additional ~50%
So we offer our PCBs in addition, as there is little or no additional postage charge.
Again, the alternative is to use the Gerber we published of the original design.
Or get one of the many other designs being offered on the internet.
We want to offer a complete set of PCBs for building a pair of power amps.
For the power supply, we decided in the end against multiple LT3045 in parallel.
There are reports around that paralleling them is not without problems.
On top of that, they add 120USD easily to the overall cost, which we consider excessive.
If you believe the PSU to be critical, build the original with CRC and large caps.
Easier to do P2P wiring and no need for any PCBs.
For normal transformer based PSU, we settle on the LT3081, which is very simple to use.
And we shall test before offering (waiting for PCBs right now).
For best results, we shall use a 15V 1.5A pre-reg, such as L7815, to take out most of the 50Hz ripples.
We intend to use a 4700µF 25V Elcap upstream, and a 1µF MKS02 directly at the IC Pins, all direct P2P solder.
There are much larger caps at the input of the dual LT3081 PSU board.
We always use speaker protection.
The Improved PMA Protection circuit used in the F5Pi is unfortunately not suitable for +/-12V rails.
We already successfully tested a new circuit (XEN SSP3) designed specifically for the purpose.
So the entire standard package will include :
1x matched quad 2SK170GR / 2SJ74GR
2x amplifier PCBs
2x Dual LT3081 PSU PCBs
2x XEN SSP3 PCBs
4x TO220 Rectifier PCBs
100€ incl. EU VAT, excl. Postage
Fran wants to make life easier for those with less experience / equipment.
So we offer a limited number of full Q-sets.
The full package will then include all the above, plus
1x matched quad KSA992 / KSC1845
1x matched quad SS8050 / SS8550 -- preferred for the drivers
1x matched quad TTC5200 / TTA1943
4x TO92 heatsinks for Q3,4 black anodised -- for the drivers
140€ incl. EU VAT, excl. postage
Limited to 10 sets
Those interested please help us to keep a running list by updating yourselves.
Thank you for your interest,
Patrick
Subscription List :
Full Set, including all active devices for the amplifier, full PCB set, BoM & instructions, excluding passives and postage :
(limited to 10 sets)
DIYA Nickname, country
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Full Set, including JFETS for the amplifier, full PCB set, BoM & instructions, excluding postage :
DIYA Nickname, country
.....
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Full Set, including all active devices for the amplifier, full PCB set, BoM & instructions, excluding passives and postage :
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DIYA Nickname, country
.....
Full Set, including JFETS for the amplifier, full PCB set, BoM & instructions, excluding postage :
DIYA Nickname, country
.....
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DIYA Nickname, country
HelmutHolz; Germany
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DIYA Nickname, country
.....
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DIYA Nickname, country
HelmutHolz; Germany
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DIYA Nickname, country
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HelmutHolz; Germany
UptownSquash, USA
.....
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DIYA Nickname, country
.....
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Full Set, including all active devices for the amplifier, full PCB set, BoM & instructions, excluding passives and postage :
(limited to 10 sets)
DIYA Nickname, country
HelmutHolz; Germany
UptownSquash, USA
.....
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DIYA Nickname, country
.....
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Subscription List :
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(limited to 10 sets)
DIYA Nickname, country
HelmutHolz; Germany
UptownSquash, USA
maximax77, UK
.....
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DIYA Nickname, country
.....
Full Set, including all active devices for the amplifier, full PCB set, BoM & instructions, excluding passives and postage :
(limited to 10 sets)
DIYA Nickname, country
HelmutHolz; Germany
UptownSquash, USA
maximax77, UK
.....
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DIYA Nickname, country
.....
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Full Set, including all active devices for the amplifier, full PCB set, BoM & instructions, excluding passives and postage :
(limited to 10 sets)
DIYA Nickname, country
HelmutHolz; Germany
UptownSquash, USA
carolus, Belgium
Full Set, including JFETS for the amplifier, full PCB set, BoM & instructions, excluding postage :
DIYA Nickname, country
.....
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Subscription List :
Full Set, including all active devices for the amplifier, full PCB set, BoM & instructions, excluding passives and postage :
(limited to 10 sets)
DIYA Nickname, country
HelmutHolz; Germany
UptownSquash, USA
carolus, Belgium
Full Set, including JFETS for the amplifier, full PCB set, BoM & instructions, excluding postage :
DIYA Nickname, country
.....
.
Full Set, including all active devices for the amplifier, full PCB set, BoM & instructions, excluding passives and postage :
(limited to 10 sets)
DIYA Nickname, country
HelmutHolz; Germany
UptownSquash, USA
carolus, Belgium
Full Set, including JFETS for the amplifier, full PCB set, BoM & instructions, excluding postage :
DIYA Nickname, country
.....
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And of course those who want to stick to the original transistors only need to choose the standard package.
Or not at all.
Patrick
Or not at all.
Patrick
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UptownSquash, USA
carolus, Belgium
Freebee, Netherlands
Full Set, including JFETS for the amplifier, full PCB set, BoM & instructions, excluding postage :
DIYA Nickname, country
...
Full Set, including all active devices for the amplifier, full PCB set, BoM & instructions, excluding passives and postage :
(limited to 10 sets)
DIYA Nickname, country
HelmutHolz; Germany
UptownSquash, USA
carolus, Belgium
Freebee, Netherlands
Full Set, including JFETS for the amplifier, full PCB set, BoM & instructions, excluding postage :
DIYA Nickname, country
...
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(limited to 10 sets)
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HelmutHolz; Germany
UptownSquash, USA
maximax77, UK
carolus, Belgium
Freebee, Netherlands
Full Set, including JFETS for the amplifier, full PCB set, BoM & instructions, excluding postage :
DIYA Nickname, country
...
Full Set, including all active devices for the amplifier, full PCB set, BoM & instructions, excluding passives and postage :
(limited to 10 sets)
DIYA Nickname, country
HelmutHolz; Germany
UptownSquash, USA
maximax77, UK
carolus, Belgium
Freebee, Netherlands
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DIYA Nickname, country
...
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HelmutHolz; Germany
UptownSquash, USA
maximax77, UK
carolus, Belgium
Freebee, Netherlands
Arthur, HK
Full Set, including JFETS for the amplifier, full PCB set, BoM & instructions, excluding postage :
DIYA Nickname, country
...
Full Set, including all active devices for the amplifier, full PCB set, BoM & instructions, excluding passives and postage :
(limited to 10 sets)
DIYA Nickname, country
HelmutHolz; Germany
UptownSquash, USA
maximax77, UK
carolus, Belgium
Freebee, Netherlands
Arthur, HK
Full Set, including JFETS for the amplifier, full PCB set, BoM & instructions, excluding postage :
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Patrick, the bypass CCS was not retained?
And maybe it would be possible to use Jan Didden Super Regulator sold on The diyAudio Store only for the input stage; what do you think?
And maybe it would be possible to use Jan Didden Super Regulator sold on The diyAudio Store only for the input stage; what do you think?
Bypass CCS is detailed in the building instructions.
We can't provide them, as you need to measure and trim in circuit.
For Didden, see :
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/hiraga-le-monstre-2024.413301/post-7764841
And the few posts from me thereafter.
You cannot use separate power supplies for frontend and output stage.
It is dictated by the circuit.
In a similar way to e.g. Nelson's F5.
Patrick
We can't provide them, as you need to measure and trim in circuit.
For Didden, see :
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/hiraga-le-monstre-2024.413301/post-7764841
And the few posts from me thereafter.
You cannot use separate power supplies for frontend and output stage.
It is dictated by the circuit.
In a similar way to e.g. Nelson's F5.
Patrick
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Full Set, including all active devices for the amplifier, full PCB set, BoM & instructions, excluding passives and postage :
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DIYA Nickname, country
HelmutHolz; Germany
UptownSquash, USA
maximax77, UK
carolus, Belgium
Freebee, Netherlands
Arthur, HK
Oracle1, Greece
Full Set, including JFETS for the amplifier, full PCB set, BoM & instructions, excluding postage :
DIYA Nickname, country
Full Set, including all active devices for the amplifier, full PCB set, BoM & instructions, excluding passives and postage :
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DIYA Nickname, country
HelmutHolz; Germany
UptownSquash, USA
maximax77, UK
carolus, Belgium
Freebee, Netherlands
Arthur, HK
Oracle1, Greece
Full Set, including JFETS for the amplifier, full PCB set, BoM & instructions, excluding postage :
DIYA Nickname, country
Subscription List :
Full Set, including all active devices for the amplifier, full PCB set, BoM & instructions, excluding passives and postage :
(limited to 10 sets)
DIYA Nickname, country
HelmutHolz; Germany
UptownSquash, USA
maximax77, UK
carolus, Belgium
Freebee, Netherlands
Arthur, HK
Oracle1, Greece
daanve, Netherlands
Full Set, including JFETS for the amplifier, full PCB set, BoM & instructions, excluding postage :
DIYA Nickname, country
Full Set, including all active devices for the amplifier, full PCB set, BoM & instructions, excluding passives and postage :
(limited to 10 sets)
DIYA Nickname, country
HelmutHolz; Germany
UptownSquash, USA
maximax77, UK
carolus, Belgium
Freebee, Netherlands
Arthur, HK
Oracle1, Greece
daanve, Netherlands
Full Set, including JFETS for the amplifier, full PCB set, BoM & instructions, excluding postage :
DIYA Nickname, country
Subscription List :
Full Set, including all active devices for the amplifier, full PCB set, BoM & instructions, excluding passives and postage :
(limited to 10 sets)
DIYA Nickname, country
HelmutHolz; Germany
UptownSquash, USA
maximax77, UK
carolus, Belgium
Freebee, Netherlands
Arthur, HK
Oracle1, Greece
daanve, Netherlands
lohk, Austria
Full Set, including JFETS for the amplifier, full PCB set, BoM & instructions, excluding postage :
DIYA Nickname, country
Full Set, including all active devices for the amplifier, full PCB set, BoM & instructions, excluding passives and postage :
(limited to 10 sets)
DIYA Nickname, country
HelmutHolz; Germany
UptownSquash, USA
maximax77, UK
carolus, Belgium
Freebee, Netherlands
Arthur, HK
Oracle1, Greece
daanve, Netherlands
lohk, Austria
Full Set, including JFETS for the amplifier, full PCB set, BoM & instructions, excluding postage :
DIYA Nickname, country
Subscription List :
Full Set, including all active devices for the amplifier, full PCB set, BoM & instructions, excluding passives and postage :
(limited to 10 sets)
DIYA Nickname, country
HelmutHolz; Germany
UptownSquash, USA
maximax77, UK
carolus, Belgium
Freebee, Netherlands
Arthur, HK
Oracle1, Greece
daanve, Netherlands
lohk, Austria
caffleck, US
Full Set, including JFETS for the amplifier, full PCB set, BoM & instructions, excluding postage :
DIYA Nickname, countr
Full Set, including all active devices for the amplifier, full PCB set, BoM & instructions, excluding passives and postage :
(limited to 10 sets)
DIYA Nickname, country
HelmutHolz; Germany
UptownSquash, USA
maximax77, UK
carolus, Belgium
Freebee, Netherlands
Arthur, HK
Oracle1, Greece
daanve, Netherlands
lohk, Austria
caffleck, US
Full Set, including JFETS for the amplifier, full PCB set, BoM & instructions, excluding postage :
DIYA Nickname, countr
All 10 full sets have been subscribed for.
Fran has agreed to consider extending the quota to 20 sets.
We have limited amount of those specially black anodised heatsinks.
So maybe not providing those for the next sets.
I'll update the lists below.
Thank you for your interest,
Patrick
.
Fran has agreed to consider extending the quota to 20 sets.
We have limited amount of those specially black anodised heatsinks.
So maybe not providing those for the next sets.
I'll update the lists below.
Thank you for your interest,
Patrick
.
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First Subscription Full Set :
including all active devices for the amplifier, full PCB set, BoM & instructions, excluding passives and postage :
HelmutHolz; Germany
UptownSquash, USA
maximax77, UK
carolus, Belgium
Freebee, Netherlands
Arthur, HK
Oracle1, Greece
daanve, Netherlands
lohk, Austria
caffleck, US
Patrick
including all active devices for the amplifier, full PCB set, BoM & instructions, excluding passives and postage :
HelmutHolz; Germany
UptownSquash, USA
maximax77, UK
carolus, Belgium
Freebee, Netherlands
Arthur, HK
Oracle1, Greece
daanve, Netherlands
lohk, Austria
caffleck, US
Patrick
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