Please add your knowledge here so that we can reference it when required other than keep asking the same question over.
Typical frequency range that an musical instrument covers:
I am interested in the typical(norm) values for example
kick drum : from 800hz to 5135 hz?
double bass: from 45hz to 1khz?
electric bass: etc etc....
violines
grand piano
standard piano
flute....
..
Typical frequency range that an musical instrument covers:
I am interested in the typical(norm) values for example
kick drum : from 800hz to 5135 hz?
double bass: from 45hz to 1khz?
electric bass: etc etc....
violines
grand piano
standard piano
flute....
..
Thanks Geoff,
I also find this interesting read.
http://www.wbmwrecords.com/live sound tips.htm
I am trying to understand more about this subject so that I have a better guess at setting the active cross over frequency even though it means I am ignoring the limits of the speaker drivers.
I also find this interesting read.
http://www.wbmwrecords.com/live sound tips.htm
I am trying to understand more about this subject so that I have a better guess at setting the active cross over frequency even though it means I am ignoring the limits of the speaker drivers.
I've been doing some spectrum analyzer runs on my electric guitar just for fun. Easy plucking gives a frequency bandwidth from about 80Hz to a little over 1kHz when only looking at the fundamentals. But almost all notes have a second order harmonic which actually rises above the fundamental. I think it is something with the metal strings because on my nylon stringed acoustic the fundamental dominates. It doesn't matter if I use a mic held close to the strings or the guitar pickups, the note and it's harmonics look about the same.
So that means my electric guitar has tones going to several thousand Hz when playing clean.
When I add distortion, even slight overdrive, the spectrum is very complex. With hard distortion the harmonics go past 20kHz. Another reason old vinyl recordings of classic rock (as well as everything else) sound so much better than the bandwidth reduced CD.
So to conclude, at least for electric guitar, the frequency spectrum is very wide indeed.
So that means my electric guitar has tones going to several thousand Hz when playing clean.
When I add distortion, even slight overdrive, the spectrum is very complex. With hard distortion the harmonics go past 20kHz. Another reason old vinyl recordings of classic rock (as well as everything else) sound so much better than the bandwidth reduced CD.
So to conclude, at least for electric guitar, the frequency spectrum is very wide indeed.
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When talking electric guitar, the most iportant regoin of harmonics for characterising the timbre is around 1.5kHz to 8kHz. This is why all guitar speakers show an interesting variation in frequency response over this range (in general a boost between 2-4k and a slight cut at 3k). The harmonics which occur higher than this have important implications when combined in different ways effecting 'brightness' or 'airyness' but do not affect the signature voice of the speaker.
When talking electric guitar, the most iportant regoin of harmonics for characterising the timbre is around 1.5kHz to 8kHz. This is why all guitar speakers show an interesting variation in frequency response over this range (in general a boost between 2-4k and a slight cut at 3k). The harmonics which occur higher than this have important implications when combined in different ways effecting 'brightness' or 'airyness' but do not affect the signature voice of the speaker.
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The pipe organ (the ones equiped with 32' pedal stops) will reach from 16Hz to pretty much fido territory (high bright mixture stops). I have heard rumors of a few organs built with 64' stops (that would be 8Hz). Holy bladder splatter Batman.
I fell in love with the organ the first time I heard a recording of Virgil Fox playing the Toccata and Fugue in D minor. The lowest note in that work is just two semitones above the lower limit (assuming the 32' is used). Needless to say I am a fan of chest crushing bass.
In one sense Organ music is thus very good for testing speakers in that a good recording will excercise everything to the fullest. The difficulty is that each organ is an entity unto itself and can be set up with an infinite number of tonal combinations, so it is difficult to tell how accurate the speaker is. Thus one should use organ to test the speaker's range and dynamic capability but you must also use voice and familiar accoustic instrements (piano, strings, oboe etc) to judge tonal accuracy and soundstage.
mike
The pipe organ (the ones equiped with 32' pedal stops) will reach from 16Hz to pretty much fido territory (high bright mixture stops). I have heard rumors of a few organs built with 64' stops (that would be 8Hz). Holy bladder splatter Batman.
I fell in love with the organ the first time I heard a recording of Virgil Fox playing the Toccata and Fugue in D minor. The lowest note in that work is just two semitones above the lower limit (assuming the 32' is used). Needless to say I am a fan of chest crushing bass.
In one sense Organ music is thus very good for testing speakers in that a good recording will excercise everything to the fullest. The difficulty is that each organ is an entity unto itself and can be set up with an infinite number of tonal combinations, so it is difficult to tell how accurate the speaker is. Thus one should use organ to test the speaker's range and dynamic capability but you must also use voice and familiar accoustic instrements (piano, strings, oboe etc) to judge tonal accuracy and soundstage.
mike
remind me what the hearing limit for humans is again..? i was thinking it was ten, so that 8hz organ would be too low to hear, but i could be wrong. anyone see that myth busters show where they tried to find the "brown note" used by the military to make people lose control of thier bladder? or so the myth has it.. they had some audio techs that got the rig down to 4hz- it was weird to watch the speakers.. anywho...
I imagine that 8Hz would be basically a feel it only proposition however such a stop would contribute audible richness starting a few steps up on the pedal board. The pedals cover 31 semitones (32 note thus 31 intervals).
Of course a lot of the impact of live Organ is physical even with the 32" stops.
mike
Of course a lot of the impact of live Organ is physical even with the 32" stops.
mike
notes below 20Hz make sense!
say 8Hz has harmonics which you can hear (like 3rd-24Hz or 4th-32Hz) and phychoacousticly this "chord" of harmonics hearable is recognised as 8Hz !!!
about distorted guitar it doesn't make sense to state that CD limits its band as most guitar speakers cut everything over 5-6kHz with even -24dB/oct!!! (4th order filter)
This is one of the reasons why it is so hard to emulate real guitar amp.
cheers
say 8Hz has harmonics which you can hear (like 3rd-24Hz or 4th-32Hz) and phychoacousticly this "chord" of harmonics hearable is recognised as 8Hz !!!
about distorted guitar it doesn't make sense to state that CD limits its band as most guitar speakers cut everything over 5-6kHz with even -24dB/oct!!! (4th order filter)
This is one of the reasons why it is so hard to emulate real guitar amp.
cheers
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