With all the knowledge and wisdom in our community is it possible to iterate to a best-implementation guide in each of our areas of interest. What I mean is, a better way to amass all our small inputs into THE way to do it, as endorsed by the whole community.
It's almost the opposite of the forum now where all new knowledge gets dissipated into an ever growing field of babble.
This is not meant in any way as a criticism of the forum; quite the opposite - I see the quality of the discussions every day, in every thread. What I'm thinking is a structure where the best agreed practice for op-amp active crossovers, full range open baffle, and how to veneer, vented cabinet design, sealed, tubed, digital, each specialty presents best practices in the top level “forums” view and the discussion fans out from there. There just needs to be a way of capturing nuggets of wisdom from the river of threads; i.e. a chairperson for each discipline.
All the other international standards run on volunteers (albeit corporately sponsored)
???
It's almost the opposite of the forum now where all new knowledge gets dissipated into an ever growing field of babble.
This is not meant in any way as a criticism of the forum; quite the opposite - I see the quality of the discussions every day, in every thread. What I'm thinking is a structure where the best agreed practice for op-amp active crossovers, full range open baffle, and how to veneer, vented cabinet design, sealed, tubed, digital, each specialty presents best practices in the top level “forums” view and the discussion fans out from there. There just needs to be a way of capturing nuggets of wisdom from the river of threads; i.e. a chairperson for each discipline.
All the other international standards run on volunteers (albeit corporately sponsored)
???
Seems totally hopeless to me, as the "best implementation" depends on ones priorities, and frankly on different audio belief systems that seem to flourish. From a purely technical and engineering based viewpoint, one can argue the benefits or weak points of a given circuit, but when it comes to sound quality...
Of course if you believe, as I do, that below a certain level of distortion and other performance measurements, that all circuits sound the same, best implementation gets a bit easier, but I don't expect people with other beliefs to go down without a fight!
Of course if you believe, as I do, that below a certain level of distortion and other performance measurements, that all circuits sound the same, best implementation gets a bit easier, but I don't expect people with other beliefs to go down without a fight!
It would be a never ending crusade in every direction - and that's why we're all here right?
I'm challenging a better way of capturing all the pearls of wisdom that float through this forum on a daily basis.
I'm challenging a better way of capturing all the pearls of wisdom that float through this forum on a daily basis.
This is a fantastic idea. What this place needs is a moderator who is totally unbiased, stern, but nice and always polite – me.
Achtung!
Achtung!
If you find a thread whose contents you feel deserve the effort required to reduce it down to its essence, feel free to save the thread out as text, edit it and place it into the WIKI.
dave
dave
I think the wiki could become useful - if there were a way to "inline" diagrams - this is a engineering based hobby and technical drawings are absolutely required
G.Kleinschmidt said:
*puts on "Schultz" costume*
Jawohl mine commandant!
We do have some standards already here. Most are basically common sense, like use an isolation transformer for line-opped stuff.
Or is this not what you guys are thinking? 😕
Cheers!
Peer review is pretty powerful, and the open nature of a forum does provide that, assuming the reader is willing to figure out which "reviewers" know what the hell they're talking about.
That's what the Wikis are for.
Who's volunteering to fill one or two of the dozens of gaps in that potentially enormous resource?
Who's volunteering to fill one or two of the dozens of gaps in that potentially enormous resource?
Sounds totaly counter to the evolution of new ideas....
If you want that environment, go to university or something....
Many people here (the majority) are not qualified audio engineers, but may have a lifetime of skills in a host of sundry activities linked to the construction of DIY items...
Metal workers
Wood workers
Etc...
If you want that environment, go to university or something....
Many people here (the majority) are not qualified audio engineers, but may have a lifetime of skills in a host of sundry activities linked to the construction of DIY items...
Metal workers
Wood workers
Etc...
Roofing inspectors
Political advisors
Event organizers
Bocce players
Sailors
Cooks
We all have something to add to the DIY scene. 🙂
Political advisors
Event organizers
Bocce players
Sailors
Cooks
We all have something to add to the DIY scene. 🙂
Maybe turn the idea on it's head. Instead of listing those items we "agree" are good, an indicator pointing out that this or that idea is generally discounted by the community might be less work.
It would not reduce the input of new ideas,but might prevent a novice or two from sailing too far up that famous creek before discovering that it's a dead end.
The world seems to supply us with an endless stream of newbies, many of them young and utterly determined to learn for themselves that you can't build a world class speaker with a $10.00 Radio Shack driver and an old discarded shoe box.
It would not reduce the input of new ideas,but might prevent a novice or two from sailing too far up that famous creek before discovering that it's a dead end.
The world seems to supply us with an endless stream of newbies, many of them young and utterly determined to learn for themselves that you can't build a world class speaker with a $10.00 Radio Shack driver and an old discarded shoe box.
Ok, so I used a small discarded leaky wooden box. I think that is an important step for newbies! Learning for themselves. For me, the failure of my first speaker project just whetted the desire to learn more about what it would take to make a better speaker.
On topic, I agree with the above comments about the wiki. I am guilty myself of not adding to the information base there. The wiki is a resource with a whole lot of potential (think how often wikipedia is quoted as a source of information). Of course, our specialized hobby doesn't warrant enough merit for a lot of detailed pages on wikipedia, but that is where we can fill in the gaps with our own wiki. The prominence of the the wiki could be improved, I have often seen people who had no idea that the wiki even exists.
David
Geek said:
*puts on "Schultz" costume*
Jawohl mine commandant!
Dis iz no place for fun an games.
Nordic said:
This is scary. That swithplate was in my and my brother's bedroom when I was a real real little kid, early 60s. No idea who put it up, we were raised Catholic but weren't a hugely observant family. Must of been a gift from a God parent or at a Christening of something.
AndrewT said:
I am curious whether this will work. In a 'real' wiki it seems that people refrain from posting on, say, the evaporation of black holes, if they have no clue about it.
In audio we *may* end up with people filling the wiki with things they have no clue about but don't know it
. It will be interesting to see who will determine what's OK and what's horse manure.Jan Didden
AndrewT said:
Who's volunteering to approve the stuff written?
Didden has a strong point, indeed...
🙂
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