Good very small fullrange for 100Hz to 20K please
Hello,
I'm searching for the most compact solution as possible... the lowest volume and driver size as possible.
Is there any experienced builder that knows a 2 or 3" Full Range able to cover the 100Hz to 20K range please ?
Hello,
I'm searching for the most compact solution as possible... the lowest volume and driver size as possible.
Is there any experienced builder that knows a 2 or 3" Full Range able to cover the 100Hz to 20K range please ?
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pair( 2 pcs) peerless HIEND 3inch fullrange speaker free ship desk audio
http://s.aliexpress.com/yI7f6jaM
(from AliExpress Android)
http://s.aliexpress.com/yI7f6jaM
(from AliExpress Android)
I will look for perhaps TV drivers or to stay compact two ways coaxial for cars !
The 100 Hz is hard to get with a so little FR (if you need the treble as well).
The 100 Hz is hard to get with a so little FR (if you need the treble as well).
I have no personal experience with that size fullrange drivers, but from reading
in a german magazine (Hobbyhifi) the Wavecor drivers seem to be VERY good.
--> Wavecor FR070WA03/04 [http://www.lautsprechershop.de/pdf/wavecor/FR070WA03_04_specifications.pdf]
Next size up is "FR084WA01" and equally good.
in a german magazine (Hobbyhifi) the Wavecor drivers seem to be VERY good.
--> Wavecor FR070WA03/04 [http://www.lautsprechershop.de/pdf/wavecor/FR070WA03_04_specifications.pdf]
Next size up is "FR084WA01" and equally good.
SB65WBAC.
Currently on sale here
https://www.intertechnik.de/Shop/Special-offers/_SB65WBAC25-4_1768,en,7765,150419
You will not find better especially at the sale price.
Currently on sale here
https://www.intertechnik.de/Shop/Special-offers/_SB65WBAC25-4_1768,en,7765,150419
You will not find better especially at the sale price.
Thx for the link, the VAS is a bit high for a compact enclosure and the of-axis response is really bad.
The Qts is too low and the FR is too high for an unequalized flat open baffle response.
I d'ont find small coaxials.
You are right the treble off axis response of of small fullrange is bad... i'm finally planing to add a 1" dome.
Amazing, the free air response is simply awesome but they are expensive.
Not bad, but i'm still searching for a cheaper alternative, because of the need of a tweeter.
And the Qts is too low for an unequalized flat open baffle response.
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The sb65wbac does not need a tweeter it has excellent high frequency reproduction.
-15dB@10K for 60° and +10dB@15K on axis... the treble quantity is too dependant to the listener position AMHA
https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/approx-3-fullrange/hi-vi-b3s-3-full-range-copper-color-cone/
This one seem to be suitable for an open baffle, no ?
If you are conservative with how loud you need to play the Fostex FF85wk will do the job…
The sats in these will reach 70-80 Hz, (smaller enclosure goes to 80-90) so can be XOed at 100 Hz, in this situation we tried 160 but moved the XO up to 240 Hz for better upper bass lower mid impact.
dave
The sats in these will reach 70-80 Hz, (smaller enclosure goes to 80-90) so can be XOed at 100 Hz, in this situation we tried 160 but moved the XO up to 240 Hz for better upper bass lower mid impact.
dave
If you are conservative with how loud you need to play the Fostex FF85wk will do the job…
The sats in these will reach 70-80 Hz, (smaller enclosure goes to 80-90) so can be XOed at 100 Hz, in this situation we tried 160 but moved the XO up to 240 Hz for better upper bass lower mid impact.
dave
Beautiful tiny speakers, really.
You 've done a lot of work...
60dB in enough for me, i've tried the fostex (FF85K) and dislike the congestioned boxy sound... the audax HM100G0 drivers are a lot more "airy".
I don't know if my enclosures were wrong ?
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Those enclosures look like they are probably large for the FF85k (max 2 litres or so). In the right box they performed very well, the new driver is better.
Any bracing in those boxes?
dave
Any bracing in those boxes?
dave
They were in a 1L closed box, the big internal volume was a 4 order band pass bass reflex dedicated to an internal woofer, It sounded good but very very shy.
This is true of any full range driver. They all have poor off axis performance due to their largish diameters. To get decent treble response you need to pick your listening axis carefully. Still of all the full range drivers I've tried the little SB has crystal clear, very smooth and extended highs. Yeah you need to angle them to suit the high frequency balance you want but what's new?
I was looking for a treble capable new-gen long excursion fullrange, some inverted domes have an amazing directivity pattern... but i've finally found a old audax miniature woofer at my local store paired with the good TW010E1.
It require 1.7 liters... it's a tad bulky.
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Let's hope it doesn't have foam surrounds. I've dealt with some of the older Audax paper cones with foam surrounds and they've all perished.
Surprised nobody has mentioned the Vifa/Peerless/Tymphany TC9FD18-08 or better yet, TG9FD10-08. I would try these first due to low cost, very low midrange distortion, very smooth frequency response and quite decent off-axis performance.
http://www.parts-express.com/pedocs/specs/264-1064--tymphany-tg9fd-04-spec-sheet.pdf
http://www.parts-express.com/pedocs/specs/264-1062--tymphany-tc9fd18-08-spec-sheet.pdf
The distortion down at 100Hz is not the best you'll find, however. Attached is the graph for the TC9. The TG9 should be better. Of course, I haven't heard a 3" driver that has truly clean bass.. others in this thread may be better in that respect.
http://www.parts-express.com/pedocs/specs/264-1064--tymphany-tg9fd-04-spec-sheet.pdf
http://www.parts-express.com/pedocs/specs/264-1062--tymphany-tc9fd18-08-spec-sheet.pdf
The distortion down at 100Hz is not the best you'll find, however. Attached is the graph for the TC9. The TG9 should be better. Of course, I haven't heard a 3" driver that has truly clean bass.. others in this thread may be better in that respect.
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