Why the modern audio amplifiers, dont have Bass, Treble, balance
What is the alternative they are using?
Just like Onkyo M-5010
Equalizers are also vanished.
What is the alternative they are using?
Just like Onkyo M-5010
Equalizers are also vanished.
They are always useful to have, despite many people's predujices on the matter, unless you lucky enough to have a electrostatic speakers and an anechoic chamber as your listening area and thus no room response...
Its possible to do it with DSP of course, so that they can just be in some setup/tuning menu if you want, but real bass/treble knobs are very handy when the neighbours start hammering on the walls at 1am...
Its possible to do it with DSP of course, so that they can just be in some setup/tuning menu if you want, but real bass/treble knobs are very handy when the neighbours start hammering on the walls at 1am...
Perhaps because modern listening signal chains - like a "streamer" - all have that built into the software, the graphic EQ UI being on another "tab" or "pop up". Amp manufacturers feel why duplicate the wheel and it'll save some $ on the BOM too.
Because they often suck the life out of the sound. First they made tone defeat buttons, and you could often hear a huge benefits from turning bass, treble and loudness of. The best amplifiers had so good tone circuits that they didnt ruin sound. I enjoy having them too.
I was a Denon fanboy, I dreamed of the DE-70 12 band eq. Now I have a Vector Research that suits me well.
Cheese!
I was a Denon fanboy, I dreamed of the DE-70 12 band eq. Now I have a Vector Research that suits me well.
Cheese!
Good looking Leaks. My friend has Luxman L430. Wonderful sound with selectable frequencies.
Cheers!
Cheers!
Good sounding equalizers are hard to find. Even two band baxandall can be terrible deterioration.
Something to do with negative feedback sucking life out.
I use behringer ultracurve 31 band digital eq and find it quite transparent. One has to watch for input signal, even it has clipping indicator, it often overloads certain channels long before.
I find small schiit eq nice sounding, its well designed. Like cello palette, no negative feedback.
You just claimed NFB is “bad” a moment ago.
Behringer gear is nothing new under the sun. Pretty much bog standard (and they claim all this special IP…..)
EQ circuits can often clip internally because internal voltages can try to go way the heck over +/-15 volts, even when putting out much less. Build it with tubes as you have a wee bit more headroom. You get more than 30 V p-p to work with. You won’t find high voltage discrete circuits in budget gear of any make.
Behringer gear is nothing new under the sun. Pretty much bog standard (and they claim all this special IP…..)
EQ circuits can often clip internally because internal voltages can try to go way the heck over +/-15 volts, even when putting out much less. Build it with tubes as you have a wee bit more headroom. You get more than 30 V p-p to work with. You won’t find high voltage discrete circuits in budget gear of any make.
Sorry meant awesome It also automatically apply your presets for phone speaker, wired connections and each individual bluetooth device. Only commercial is a rare link you sometimes have to close when opening the app.
Cheers
I use this one: http://sound-au.com/project97.htm
No complaints.
This has a novel feature that the range of the tone controls can be limited to a very subtle level. I didn’t implement this option. I should have. I find that I only ever do the smallest adjustment to the tone controls.
HTH
No complaints.
This has a novel feature that the range of the tone controls can be limited to a very subtle level. I didn’t implement this option. I should have. I find that I only ever do the smallest adjustment to the tone controls.
HTH
One of the ways they achieve that bang is by offloading quality control to the customer.
I had a few Behringer items which were faulty out of the box but their dealers were always very good when it came to replacing or refunding.
Project 97 is just your basic Baxandall bass/treble circuit, with the range adjustment option. Most Baxandall circuits are “too aggressive”, as in +/-20dB of range. They don’t have to be if you’re building what you want. If you ready are only interested in +/-5 or 6 dB you can use the passive version with linear pots instead. (-6dB at at center rotation). A lot of the old classic passive stacks used audio taper pots to get +/-15 to 20dB of range, but only are approximately flat at center because of taper errors and cap ratios not tracking the taper. I buy ones that are consistently 8:1 at center rotation. That requires 8:1 cap ratios not the 10:1 you see in the schematics….. in the old days it probably was 10:1 for a true log taper.
Behringer stuff is bang for the buck - price point build quality and no QC. The circuits are solid engineering, because it’s all tried and true technology borrowed from the entire universe. Don’t beat on it, and be prepared for routine maintenance yourself (Without a schematic, but for switches pots and the usual stuff you won’t need one).
Behringer stuff is bang for the buck - price point build quality and no QC. The circuits are solid engineering, because it’s all tried and true technology borrowed from the entire universe. Don’t beat on it, and be prepared for routine maintenance yourself (Without a schematic, but for switches pots and the usual stuff you won’t need one).
My take on 2 band tone control.
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/why-the-exaggerated-bass.361589/post-6375865
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/why-the-exaggerated-bass.361589/post-6375865
I'm pleased with the TB3/r3 by Prasi. Volume, Bass, mid and treble - 10K pots with center detent... The FR at center detent position is absolutely flat, confirmed by acoustic measurements. Aprox +/- 6db control.. I have a single driver(SB12NRXF25) in and undersized box and use bass cut to lower the bass peak(high Q) and cut mid and treble which "roughly" flattens the rising response.. In this setup the bass and midrange is my preference over Rogers LS3/5A.
I'm planning to use the preamp to drive fully developed budget 2ways with passive crossovers and internal amps..
