Hi guys
I'm working on a three way and I'm gonna use a tweeter +2.5khz over an 8" midrange. I have to candidates for tweeter but I'm in maze so I want to hear your ideas please. the overall sensitivity of speaker will be around 96db. cost is no object
option#1: Faital Pro HF108 compression driver
option#2: Aurum Cantus G1 Ribbon
I'm working on a three way and I'm gonna use a tweeter +2.5khz over an 8" midrange. I have to candidates for tweeter but I'm in maze so I want to hear your ideas please. the overall sensitivity of speaker will be around 96db. cost is no object
option#1: Faital Pro HF108 compression driver


option#2: Aurum Cantus G1 Ribbon
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If cost is no object...then neither. Use raal.
cost no object within those two drivers prices
Faital Pro driver + Faital Pro horn
that's what I'm thinking about but isn't G1 a better in term of sound quality?
Or a SEOS 8 with appropriate dome tweeter and lower crossover point for a better directivity match.
I never thought of that
Faital with a Beyma horn http://www.beyma.com/getpdf.php?pid=TD-194.
The Faital has 1.3k as its lowest rec. crossover so you can cross it to match the directivity of your woofer with an 8" that would be around 1.7k.
The Faital has 1.3k as its lowest rec. crossover so you can cross it to match the directivity of your woofer with an 8" that would be around 1.7k.
Copy the Vapor Arcus : VAPOR ARCUS SPEAKER REVIEW
It uses a Beyma ribbon and an Acoustic Elegance woofer.
It uses a Beyma ribbon and an Acoustic Elegance woofer.
Copy the Vapor Arcus : VAPOR ARCUS SPEAKER REVIEW
It uses a Beyma ribbon and an Acoustic Elegance woofer.
I second that. You can't do probably better.
If you really, really, really plan to use a 2.5Khz crossover with a 96db/W 8" midrange, then:
Ribbon = exceptional detail + excellent dynamics + wide horizontal polar pattern at the crossover frequency.
Compression Driver = exceptional dynamics + excellent details + controlled polar pattern at the crossover frequency.
1) For "delicate cone" fullrange, you can time-align the ribbon to the 8" by using a deep cut into the baffle(double baffle) large enough for a loose beveled felt " absorpton waveguide" glued to the ribbon faceplate. If you angle cut a felt block around the ribbon, it can absorb and also shape the exit sound closer to the beaming pattern of the 8" at the crossover frequency.
2) if you want a smooth continuous controlled directivity pattern you will need a horn/waveguide with about 60h*40v control and a 0.75" compression driver which provides great detail up to 20Khz. like ME7 from BC speakers
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BAIL-OUT IDEA: The new SATORI TW29RN dome tweeter has 96db sensitivity.
Ribbon = exceptional detail + excellent dynamics + wide horizontal polar pattern at the crossover frequency.
Compression Driver = exceptional dynamics + excellent details + controlled polar pattern at the crossover frequency.
1) For "delicate cone" fullrange, you can time-align the ribbon to the 8" by using a deep cut into the baffle(double baffle) large enough for a loose beveled felt " absorpton waveguide" glued to the ribbon faceplate. If you angle cut a felt block around the ribbon, it can absorb and also shape the exit sound closer to the beaming pattern of the 8" at the crossover frequency.
2) if you want a smooth continuous controlled directivity pattern you will need a horn/waveguide with about 60h*40v control and a 0.75" compression driver which provides great detail up to 20Khz. like ME7 from BC speakers
-------
BAIL-OUT IDEA: The new SATORI TW29RN dome tweeter has 96db sensitivity.
If you really, really, really plan to use a 2.5Khz crossover with a 96db/W 8" midrange, then:
Ribbon = exceptional detail + excellent dynamics + wide horizontal polar pattern at the crossover frequency.
Compression Driver = exceptional dynamics + excellent details + controlled polar pattern at the crossover frequency.
1) For "delicate cone" fullrange, you can time-align the ribbon to the 8" by using a deep cut into the baffle(double baffle) large enough for a loose beveled felt " absorpton waveguide" glued to the ribbon faceplate. If you angle cut a felt block around the ribbon, it can absorb and also shape the exit sound closer to the beaming pattern of the 8" at the crossover frequency.
2) if you want a smooth continuous controlled directivity pattern you will need a horn/waveguide with about 60h*40v control and a 0.75" compression driver which provides great detail up to 20Khz. like ME7 from BC speakers
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BAIL-OUT IDEA: The new SATORI TW29RN dome tweeter has 96db sensitivity.
thanks
HF108 with STH100 horn seems better for controlled directivity.
does anyone know if Aurum Cantus G1 could be used as a dipole tweeter? I know some of AMT or Ribbons have symmetrical front and rear but I G1 doesn't look like this
thanks
HF108 with STH100 horn seems better for controlled directivity.
does anyone know if Aurum Cantus G1 could be used as a dipole tweeter? I know some of AMT or Ribbons have symmetrical front and rear but I G1 doesn't look like this
I'm answering my own question as I have my hands on G1 now. G1 is not symmetrical and could not be used and a dipole tweeter but it sounds damn good
how good
But TPL150-H is the king I guess...?
As long as you don't mind a beamy top end. I prefer the OEM RAAL to the TPL150H, except in high power/high efficiency builds.But TPL150-H is the king I guess...?
As long as you don't mind a beamy top end. I prefer the OEM RAAL to the TPL150H, except in high power/high efficiency builds.
From what I researched, TPL150H is still the king among all ribbon/AMT, but nobody's perfect I guess.
But TPL150-H is the king I guess...?
TPL-150 is IMO king of ATMs so far. I yet have to hear TPL-200. TPL is the biggest and heaviest AMT I ever seen
Aurum Cantus AST25120 is also very good.
I have not heard Mundorf stuff
TPL-150 is IMO king of ATMs so far.
I guess you've heard a lot of non-AMT/ribbon tweeters that sound not as good as AMT/ribbon, would you like to provide a long list of non-AMT/ribbon tweeters that you think they sound worse than AMT/ribbon?
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