audio amplifier bandwidth

If you are simulating using ac analysis then the response is linear about some initial operating point, thus the effects like changing beta (with Ic) and voltage level shouldnt show up.
But as Bonsai points out the R/L is different for each run ( 2uH / 4 ohms is pretty close to 200Khz, but there must be some additional contributions).
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-Antonio
 

Bonsai

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You should include an input filter and I always recommend an output inductor /Zobel network.

Try running your sims without the the input filter and output inductor/Zobel network with a capacitive load to get a measure of how load tolerant your design is. Start at about 100pF and work your way up to say 2uF in half decade steps. You can use the .step param command.
 

jcx

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high Q uF is unreasonable load for a audio amplifier - not even seen driving ESL step up tansformer primary where the winding series R and leakage L decouple the panel C above ~50 kHz

cable C for most domestic setups, conventional cable will be < 50 pF/ft


with Spice you should be able to measure with filtering/Zobel in place - just measure the right spots, remember you can do real world impractical calculations, normalization with most Spice' viewer waveform arithmetic
 
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Bonsai

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" . . . high Q uF is unreasonable load for a audio amplifier."

Precisely. That's why you need to do it to see the limits of the amp.

I agree that the cable inductance will help to isolate the capacitive load, but I see too many designs where people chase low THD at the expense of stability margin, which in fact is a significantly more important parameter.
 

jcx

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loading without the output inductor in place is going to "break" perfectly safe circuits

you can add actual delay to a amp sim with the transmisson line element - rarely seen

had to resort to added delay in the "TMC" debate http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/soli...lls-power-amplifier-book-134.html#post2420438


the standard frequency domain gain and phase margins work very well for common linear amps - again if you know where to measure
 
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