I'm trying to decide whether to get a Hafler DH-500 or an Adcom GFA-555 to drive my AR-90. My music ranges from light classicals to rocks. Could somebody give me some advices?
Thanks,
Thanks,
I've had an Adcom 555 since about 1985. I've used it and abused it. It's run ESLs, dynamics, magnetic planars. It's been run full-range and as a subwoofer amp. I've used it in my living room and on my test bench. All it's ever done is work perfectly.
I have used a Adcom GFA 555ii on a number of speakers (horns to panels). The series ii has the advantage in that the later models (not all however) had by-pass caps on the big power supply caps.
This is an advantage (and can be retrofit in the original series amps). With new by-pass caps, what I noticed was that the bass was more solid and articulate (it is hard to choose words). However, while one friend agreed with my description, he also said that the bass now sounded less full and lush.
This is just a caution that not everyone prefers the modification. But it is cheap and reversible. Search the threads for selecting the proper value cap (I used non-polar electrolytics of 22uF on each big cap)
-Tom
This is an advantage (and can be retrofit in the original series amps). With new by-pass caps, what I noticed was that the bass was more solid and articulate (it is hard to choose words). However, while one friend agreed with my description, he also said that the bass now sounded less full and lush.
This is just a caution that not everyone prefers the modification. But it is cheap and reversible. Search the threads for selecting the proper value cap (I used non-polar electrolytics of 22uF on each big cap)
-Tom
My Adcom has been trouble free since new, neither of my Haflers were, and the Adcom does not use a fan.
Not trying to start a riot, but they sound the same to me.
Not trying to start a riot, but they sound the same to me.
I love my Adcom's. I have owned many, and they can handle just about anything you throw at them. Keep them ventilated, and run them.
Thank you all for the advice! It seems that everybody prefer Adcom over Hafler. I guess Adcom is the way to go then! Is there any advantages (besides the bypass caps) that the GFA-555 II has over the GFA-555. I heard the series II has a potential problem of leaking caps damaging the circuit board.
I have had 2 555's, and the sound is very dynamic. The bass slams, and the highs are not grainy at all. I think Adcom got a bad rep for having grainy amps from the Adcom pre's hooked up to them. The only real good Adcom pre is the 750. Others have liked the 650. I had a 500, and it was pretty bad. I have yet to hear a pre with the slam the 500 had, but the rest of the SQ was pretty weak. From other Adcom owners I have chatted with they prefer the 555 over the 555II.
Happy hunting
Ben
Happy hunting
Ben
to my understanding
hafler is a better design .....
adcom though sounds better ......
you can ofcourse move this answer to this post existing about "if all amplifiers sound the same "
i will add to that , first of all to my ears adcom is much better by far from hafler ....compaired dh 200 to 555 and others
and finally i dont know about others but to me all amplifiers sound diferent ....
but thats me ...a repairman
hafler is a better design .....
adcom though sounds better ......
you can ofcourse move this answer to this post existing about "if all amplifiers sound the same "
i will add to that , first of all to my ears adcom is much better by far from hafler ....compaired dh 200 to 555 and others
and finally i dont know about others but to me all amplifiers sound diferent ....
but thats me ...a repairman
A Soundcraftsmen sounds better then an Adcom and was even reviewed better in Audio magazine (i think) some years ago. But the SC has a fan that kicks in when you really run it hard.
The adcom would be my second choice and the Haflers, they have never been my favorite as stock out of the box. maybe after mods there better??
The haflers are the surprising thing as there design is actually close to the SC design. the exception being the double differential input stage VS single Diff for the SC. same Toshiba mosfets, same Motorola Driver transistors. very similar circuit. But the SC's blow them away! The input stage must really make a major difference???
Some people dont like the SC regulator system. I admit the Phase Control Regulation system is a bit odd i guess. I have a SC i am rebuilding now into a pair of mono blocks that i will be using with a regular PSU and see how it sounds.
Zc
The adcom would be my second choice and the Haflers, they have never been my favorite as stock out of the box. maybe after mods there better??
The haflers are the surprising thing as there design is actually close to the SC design. the exception being the double differential input stage VS single Diff for the SC. same Toshiba mosfets, same Motorola Driver transistors. very similar circuit. But the SC's blow them away! The input stage must really make a major difference???
Some people dont like the SC regulator system. I admit the Phase Control Regulation system is a bit odd i guess. I have a SC i am rebuilding now into a pair of mono blocks that i will be using with a regular PSU and see how it sounds.
Zc
I own Soundcraftsmen and Adcom.
The Soundcraftsmen sounds way better.
The Adcom is just sitting in the closet collecting dust...
The Soundcraftsmen sounds way better.
The Adcom is just sitting in the closet collecting dust...
What is the model of said Soundcraftsman in the thread?
Or is their only one? Or is that a bad question?
Sorry I'm a n00bx...
Or is their only one? Or is that a bad question?
Sorry I'm a n00bx...
Soundcraftsmen PCR 800.
The PCR 800 is a MOSFET amp with four output devices per channel, Phase Control Regulation, 205 wpc @ 8 ohms, 300 wpc @ 4, and 600 watts when bridged to mono.
The amp is stable below one ohm and is great for driving reactive loads. A pair of bridged PCR 800s have no problem driving my Infinity Kappa 8 speakers...
There is also a PM 860 that has the same power ratings but has six MOSFETs per channel.
http://www.soundcraftsmen.com/PCR800_pg1.jpg
http://www.soundcraftsmen.com/PCR800_pg2.jpg
A newer, improved, version was called the Pro-Power Four.
http://www.soundcraftsmen.com/ProPower_Four_pg1.jpg
http://www.soundcraftsmen.com/ProPower_Four_pg2.jpg
Here are some tests of other Soundcraftsmen amps:
http://www.hifi-museum.com/pa/sc_fs.htm
http://www.soundcraftsmen.com/A200_pg1.GIF
http://www.soundcraftsmen.com/A200_pg2.GIF
I own four PCR800 amplifiers, two PA5001 amplifiers, and one MA5002A amplifier. I also own a Soundcraftsmen TG3044-R third octave equalizer and a CX4200 Preamp/Equalizer...
Yeah, I love Soundcraftsmen gear...
🙂
The PCR 800 is a MOSFET amp with four output devices per channel, Phase Control Regulation, 205 wpc @ 8 ohms, 300 wpc @ 4, and 600 watts when bridged to mono.
The amp is stable below one ohm and is great for driving reactive loads. A pair of bridged PCR 800s have no problem driving my Infinity Kappa 8 speakers...
There is also a PM 860 that has the same power ratings but has six MOSFETs per channel.
http://www.soundcraftsmen.com/PCR800_pg1.jpg
http://www.soundcraftsmen.com/PCR800_pg2.jpg
A newer, improved, version was called the Pro-Power Four.
http://www.soundcraftsmen.com/ProPower_Four_pg1.jpg
http://www.soundcraftsmen.com/ProPower_Four_pg2.jpg
Here are some tests of other Soundcraftsmen amps:
http://www.hifi-museum.com/pa/sc_fs.htm
http://www.soundcraftsmen.com/A200_pg1.GIF
http://www.soundcraftsmen.com/A200_pg2.GIF
I own four PCR800 amplifiers, two PA5001 amplifiers, and one MA5002A amplifier. I also own a Soundcraftsmen TG3044-R third octave equalizer and a CX4200 Preamp/Equalizer...
Yeah, I love Soundcraftsmen gear...
🙂
Hi CAN ANYONE TELL ME HOW TO BRIDGE THE SOUNDCRAFTSMEN PCR800? I WANT TO USE THEM TO DRIVE ACOUSTAT 3'S
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