re: Phase Plugs

sideways · 27th January 2013, 10:58 AM

K...

I finally got around to these...actually they've been installed for a while now on my Betsy's...just haven't really sat down with them to listen!!

Improvement...yes...increased soundstage...less directional (shout...not that there was much)...more extended top end...very nice improvement indeed

Bad news...I can't listen to them now for more than a half hour or my ears start to ring...what gives?? Insight??

Thanks!!!

jrenkin · 27th January 2013, 11:58 AM

Age?

This happened to me when the "quiets" in the music got quieter due to better equipment. Then I noticed my underlying tinnitus. It sucks and actually is less noticeable with a faint background noise, like white noise. But, it always is really loud after listening, and very fatiguing.
Make sure your ears are clear of wax. Sometimes that helps a little.

sideways · 27th January 2013, 12:01 PM

Funny!!

Yes...age is there...moreso occupation when I was young...

I have a few frequency areas that I am quite sensitive too...oh well

GM · 28th January 2013, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sideways

Improvement...yes...increased soundstage...less directional (shout...not that there was much)...more extended top end...

Bad news...I can't listen to them now for more than a half hour or my ears start to ring...what gives?? Insight??

My SWAG is that the driver's inherently loud sibilance BW [typical of 'FR' drivers] is no longer being masked by the reduced 'shout' of the lower treble. This is also often perceived as 'extending' the top end, though of course without a before and after measurement can we be sure.

Factor in tinnitus and it can indeed cause listener fatigue. Mine is bad enough that any peaking in the 2, 4, 8 kHz range sounds so 'sharp' that it has me exiting the room 'post-haste' or at least trying to plug my ears as much as practical until I can.

GM

sideways · 29th January 2013, 06:43 PM

Makes sense!!

And don't get me wrong...the phase plugs do make a difference...but with my ears...I can't enjoy the improvement LOL!!

I know others have and I'm happy for that!!

A couple of my friends grip at me for what I hear and it all seems perfectly fine to them

sideways · 29th January 2013, 06:50 PM

Oh and just so you guys know...I took them out...back to Betsy normal

27th January 2013, 10:58 AM	#1
sideways diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: S'toon	re: Phase Plugs K... I finally got around to these...actually they've been installed for a while now on my Betsy's...just haven't really sat down with them to listen!! Improvement...yes...increased soundstage...less directional (shout...not that there was much)...more extended top end...very nice improvement indeed Bad news...I can't listen to them now for more than a half hour or my ears start to ring...what gives?? Insight?? Thanks!!!

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27th January 2013, 11:58 AM	#2
jrenkin diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Denver, Colorado	Age? This happened to me when the "quiets" in the music got quieter due to better equipment. Then I noticed my underlying tinnitus. It sucks and actually is less noticeable with a faint background noise, like white noise. But, it always is really loud after listening, and very fatiguing. Make sure your ears are clear of wax. Sometimes that helps a little.

27th January 2013, 12:01 PM	#3
sideways diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: S'toon	Funny!! Yes...age is there...moreso occupation when I was young... I have a few frequency areas that I am quite sensitive too...oh well

29th January 2013, 06:43 PM	#5
sideways diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: S'toon	Makes sense!! And don't get me wrong...the phase plugs do make a difference...but with my ears...I can't enjoy the improvement LOL!! I know others have and I'm happy for that!! A couple of my friends grip at me for what I hear and it all seems perfectly fine to them

29th January 2013, 06:50 PM	#6
sideways diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: S'toon	Oh and just so you guys know...I took them out...back to Betsy normal