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Old 30th April 2013, 12:11 AM   #1
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Default Free Windows 8 PCBCAD app

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Limited library, weird interface on Win8 as far as I can tell. It might work better in older versions of Windows. The full app costs as usual.
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Limited library, weird interface on Win8 as far as I can tell. It might work better in older versions of Windows. The full app costs as usual.
It is a Win 8 app so is seriously limited by Microsofts limitations.
It is written in C++ so is very fast.
It is free so don't expect the earth !

You can get the full strength Windows version at:

http://www.murtonpikesystems.co.uk
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Limited library, weird interface on Win8 as far as I can tell. It might work better in older versions of Windows. The full app costs as usual.
lol
Windows 8 app wont work on previous versions of Windows !

Windows apps are very cut down desktop apps with some serious limitations for security reasons.

This app is only meant as a taster for the full desktop version.
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Windows 8 app wont work on previous versions of Windows !
I was just being kind. It doesn't work on Windows 8 for me at all! My reference to other versions of Windows was in reference to their full app which they are offering on their website. The Win8 version is not a good taster for anything in my opinion. Have you tried it?


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Windows apps are very cut down desktop apps with some serious limitations for security reasons.
Whatever you say! You must know a lot about Windows programming.

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This app is only meant as a taster for the full desktop version.
As I said earlier, try it and see if you still think so.
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I was just being kind. It doesn't work on Windows 8 for me at all! My reference to other versions of Windows was in reference to their full app which they are offering on their website. The Win8 version is not a good taster for anything in my opinion. Have you tried it?
Whatever you say! You must know a lot about Windows programming.
As I said earlier, try it and see if you still think so.
I have been writing Windows programs since around 1985.
From Assembler upto Delphi, C++ and c#

The desktop version has to work on any version of Windows from XP onwards which it does very well.

Having sold around 700 copies and had very little poor feedback your comments will be taken with a pinch of salt.

This is the danger of attempting to speak about something you know very little of !
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I have been writing Windows programs since around 1985.
From Assembler upto Delphi, C++ and c#

The desktop version has to work on any version of Windows from XP onwards which it does very well.

Having sold around 700 copies and had very little poor feedback your comments will be taken with a pinch of salt.

This is the danger of attempting to speak about something you know very little of !
So what exactly do you know about me that allows you to make that last statement. I taught Windows programming using most of those tools you mention and starting before you because I had a slight advantage.

Any more detail is none of your business or anyone else's here. And by the way, I was being kind to your Win8 app. I said nothing about your desktop version because I don't know it.

Just don't get into this Windows programming stuff with me. Wrong person on the receiving end. If you search long enough you might be able to find out what me job titles were from 1985 to 1995.
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So why rip into the desktop version if you know nothing about it?

It is a very successful piece of software which has been developed over 20+ years.
I have a huge client base.
I have also designed 95 pcb's with it myself and so if there are any bugs I would definitely have found them by now.

As for the Win 8 free app.
That has some seriously good algorithms in it from the desktop app.
You have made a very basic mistake and that is criticise software before you have taken time to properly get into it.
Cursory criticisms like that are very amateur.
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As far as I can tell I didn't say a single bad word about the desktop app.

I cannot get to the good stuff - the seriously good algorithms - in the Win8 app because it has so many user interface issues. That's what I think I wrote the first time around about the Win8 app also: "limited library, weird interface on Win8 ...". Maybe I should have written: too many Win8 UI issues. I can't get anything done in the free app.

No word ever from me about the quality of your algorithms ... I never used the word pcb.

Win8 UI issues, that's all. Try it on a couple more configurations.
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The issues aren't with the app they are with Win 8 apps in general.
Win 8 apps don't have menu systems or dialogue boxes.
Therefore I had to write my own from scratch.

Its free for gods sake what more do you want ?
You can pay upwards of £10,000 for PCBCAD software.
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