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Old 3rd April 2013, 10:20 PM   #941
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If not to late, i,ll take a pair also?

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Old 4th April 2013, 01:39 AM   #942
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Default VSSA PCB.

Please add me with one pair.
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Old 4th April 2013, 12:54 PM   #943
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VSSA PCB gerbers already prepared. This week I'll visit three PCB+SMD assembly companies and choose the one to produce VSSA.

Two MUR160 transformed to SMD, now ES1D, Vishay, also preinstalled. I'll also try to set faston terminals to be preinstalled

There will be only 6 electrolytic capacitors, two MKT capacitors, two BCs, KSA/KSC and ALF mosfet to solder manually.
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That will solve my worry on installing SMD parts!

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Old 4th April 2013, 01:42 PM   #944
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Is somebody can advice improvements to the circuit, I'm all ears...eyes...
Nice Linear PSU schematic with good care of diodes switching parasitic harmonics. Can be improved (may-be ?) with dumping network at the trasfo coils, and, ('i'm sure of that) just paralelling Zener or voltage regulators to the gate capacitor in order to regulate-it.

L.C, i am just asking myself a question. If we use a regulated SMPS, with HF switching frequency, could we have some benefits to use big film caps (lower µF value, less inductance) instead of lytics for the input stage and VAS DC filters of the VSSA ?
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L.C, i am just asking myself a question. If we use a regulated SMPS, with HF switching frequency, could we have some benefits to use big film caps (lower µF value, less inductance) instead of lytics for the input stage and VAS DC filters of the VSSA ?
Now we have 10 Ohm and 1 mF/50 V filtering for the VAS/input stage DC rails, since T=R*C, the filtration is effective from 100 Hz up. If SMPS has 100 kHz we could use let say 1 uF/10 Ohm for the same HF ripple filtration job only. But there's also ripple caused by LF loading currents, so something in between 1 uF to 1 mF is probably correct to choose. My suggestion would be still to use quality 1 mF/50 V electrolytics like Nichicon FG or Panasonic FC or ELNA Silmic, etc. Smaller film capacitors would serve fine for HF decoupling but will not be really effective for filtration and current providing in LF audio spectrum, especially when amp's hardly loaded.

VSSA has already 1 uF multilayer SMDs parallel to all electrolytics at DC rails, as I know well that you don't like that much because of cap resonances, but until now they've proved to be done very good job in the circuit.
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I think you have forgotten the 2xpi bit, surely its from 16Hz up?
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I think you have forgotten the 2xpi bit, surely its from 16Hz up?
Yes, 16 Hz would be cuttoff frequency where filter attenuates the signal to half its unfiltered power and that is only -3 dB, which is not relevant to be useful in practice at PSU-s. We usually set PSU passive filters to at least -20 dB attenuation to have useful effect in practice. Concretely at 100 Hz this low pass filter (10 Ohm/1 mF) has only -8,6 dB reduction in power.
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Old 5th April 2013, 02:04 AM   #948
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Merci bien, cher Esperado,

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Is somebody can advice improvements to the circuit, I'm all ears...eyes...
Esperado wrote:
Nice Linear PSU schematic with good care of diodes switching parasitic harmonics. Can be improved (may-be ?) with dumping network at the trasfo coils, and, ('i'm sure of that) just paralelling Zener or voltage regulators to the gate capacitor in order to regulate-it.
I suppose you speak about secondaries of TX. I didn't think about that option because T1 disconnect C2 from C1 for a significant period of the cycle...can you explain?

I do not use T2 but many C2's or another reg, the PowerReg which is the only one that I know well how to build: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...eat=directlink

Sorry for OT (but not too much OT I hope since we want the best PS for SSAs).

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I suppose you speak about secondaries of TX. I didn't think about that option because T1 disconnect C2 from C1 for a significant period of the cycle...can you explain?
As you know, the high energy parasitic oscillations generated by the switch off of the rectifiers find their way across grounds, primary of the trasfo down to AC lines, generates EMI/RFI. The best is to dump them at the source, whatever the precautions you can take after-it (like T1) to filter them before amp's rails.
The boring point is the optimal RC network depends of each particular trasfo and caps and even the way they are mounted, so it is kind a real life blind try, i don't know an easy way to calculate them.
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OK. I understand. I think I have here somewhere some recommendations about this topic...

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