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Old 21st April 2013, 08:22 PM   #561
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There is a TO220 metal film that can take 20W with cooling.
I will try it out and tell you.

The Virgo 1 has Polypropylen bass and midrange drivers and the position of that bass drivers is different.
The Virgo 2 has paper midrange and bass drivers. Yes, i think the Virgo 2 is better.
More dynamic and open, better soundstage, more resolution.
The placement of the woofers on the Virgo 1 was done by subjective experiment whereas the woofers of the Virgo 2 where placed by measurement .
I think i got a better transition to the midrange and less problems with " floor bounce".
On the other hand this is 20 years ago.
If you like the sound of the Virgo 1 and you got it for an affordable price you have a good speaker with unique capabilities.
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Old 22nd April 2013, 03:26 AM   #562
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In the old days i sometimes paralleled metal film resistors.
We also did a lot of listening tests. Yes, resistor type is audible.
I won't argue that in your thread, but - would you not agree that the significance is of the resistor is much smaller than the difference between two different models of drivers, or certainly drastically smaller than the difference between two rooms? The difference between CD and vinyl, the difference between cabinet construction techniques - so many factors come before resistors in importance, it seems like a fool's errand to chase after better resistors?

I've yet to find any speaker that I thought was good enough in other areas to warrant such fine tuning - but - I have to admin I dislike most speakers and they give me a headache, so I'm not the most generous listener...

Floor bounce cancellation, to my ears, is FAR larger problem than even the very worst resistors possible (assuming they are of the correct value and not high enough inductance to affect the crossover noticeably).
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Old 22nd April 2013, 04:23 AM   #563
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What speakers do you use ?
I agree, when the speaker is not well engineered no exotic component can help.
It is a bit like wine tasting or cooking. Good components can help ones the basic problems are solved. Using a cap that is more expensive then the driver makes no sense to me.
On the other hand i hear differences in components. How much ?
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Old 22nd April 2013, 10:55 AM   #564
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What speakers do you use ?
I agree, when the speaker is not well engineered no exotic component can help.
It is a bit like wine tasting or cooking. Good components can help ones the basic problems are solved. Using a cap that is more expensive then the driver makes no sense to me.
On the other hand i hear differences in components. How much ?
Common sense
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Old 29th April 2013, 06:25 AM   #565
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A fantastic thread--as a complete newb, leaned more here than from a couple of books. I teach nursing and respiratory therapy students and while they often prefer--nay demand--ligh weight powerpoint presentations covering the usual do and don'ts, aint nothing like a great case study--here in triplicate--to push my scrawny understanding a football field forward. Much appreciated. And I will get with meniscus and buy the satori tweets for a 2.5 project using usher 6.5's Were I not so deep into this project already with cabs and drivers, would have gone SBA all the way. Am gonna paint those decoupler flangers a color other than white!

Thanks to all for all the insight gleaned with these "open" projects. Way cool!
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Old 1st May 2013, 01:28 AM   #566
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Many thanks DEQXter.
I do not think that i make a great teacher but i like logical development.
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Old 6th May 2013, 12:09 AM   #567
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Mr. Gerhard, any idea when this kit will become available for sale? Is SB going to sell it via their dealers, i.e. Madisound, Meniscus, etc.?

Is this kit going to be sold with the fancy cabinets already built and pre-finished? Will the kit sell with Mundorf crossover parts? Any idea on how much it will cost?
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Old 6th May 2013, 12:19 AM   #568
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ive asked SB, the box are not ready yet. as for other parts i think you can source it with the usual US distributors, the xo was published here few pages earlier .
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Old 6th May 2013, 03:14 PM   #569
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Joachim the resistors are like the attached pic?
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Old 6th May 2013, 03:15 PM   #570
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No, this are Isabellenhütte Manganin resistors.
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