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Old 28th November 2012, 08:08 PM   #961
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hi
i use it with above version of the linux and have no problem detecting it and playing . very nice sound also no drop out even with 24/192 files

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I appreciate your confirmation....many thanks.
I have just realised that my Joggler is powering the Amanero board through a USB 1.1 Hub and you need a USB2 connection for UAC2 devices right? Will try and get a USB2.0 Hub tomorrow and report. I wouldn't be surprised if it was something as simple that as there are reports of the Amanero working just fine with the Squeezebox Touch with EDO which is effectively what the Joggler is configured as.
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Old 28th November 2012, 09:04 PM   #962
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speaking of sound quality in different rooms with different systems with different ears connected to a different brain listening to different music.... its pretty meaningless IMO. maybe one reason you dont see much of it.
Good point

But as long as any comments on SQ are made on the IMHO, to my ears, in my system basis I really don't see much harm in such things.
Just a personal opinion

Having a loose general consensus (if there is such a thing) can often be helpful.


For example


After reading your thoughts on proper termination of I2S cables I tried U FL coax TBH I found it hard to believe that such things would make much difference to the sound.

I replaced my single wire I2S lines and single ground with U fl coax (each line with its own ground return) which did change the sound for the better IMHO, to my ears, in my system.

A subtle but worthwhile change.


thanks

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Old 28th November 2012, 09:37 PM   #963
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My two cents - Modifying a a piece of audio equipment and not commenting on how it effects the sound produced - is like changing a main ingredient in your favorite cookie recipe and not mentioning how it tastes.

Good luck charly chile and shoom - I gave up trying.
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Old 28th November 2012, 09:53 PM   #964
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My two cents - Modifying a a piece of audio equipment and not commenting on how it effects the sound produced - is like changing a main ingredient in your favorite cookie recipe and not mentioning how it tastes.

Good luck charly chile and shoom - I gave up trying.
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Old 28th November 2012, 10:03 PM   #965
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sure you can say it improved, no problem, but it doesnt mean it will be better for everyone and certainly if you start saying exactly how it sounded, well sound just doesnt translate that well to words. changing the main ingredient in something may taste like crap to someone who liked that ingredient, adding some more chili to something thats already loaded with pepper might be great for someone who likes spices, it may render it inedible to someone who doesnt.

the vast majority of impressions I read are utterly meaningless, especially when people start trying to use audiophile lingo instead of their native language

many dont even mention what gear they are using, or what was there before.

also in a properly designed DAC, if changing from one bit perfect i2s interface to another brand bitperfect i2s interface alters the sound in a profound way, you need a better dac design. we all are here for the sound, yes even me, but this particular style component is more about how well it works, how reliable the drivers are, whether it has the features you are after etc. in a well designed system it should make little difference to the sound, let alone one that can be meaningfully described.

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Old 28th November 2012, 10:27 PM   #966
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''also in a properly designed DAC, if changing from one bit perfect i2s interface to another brand bitperfect i2s interface alters the sound in a profound way, you need a better dac design''

or a better PSU
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Old 28th November 2012, 10:28 PM   #967
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....... but this particular style component is more about how well it works, how reliable the drivers are, whether it has the features you are after etc. .......
Thanks for the clarification. Every thread justifiably has its own flavor, emphasis and tone, so I'll look elsewhere for useful subjective information.

Not a problem
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Old 28th November 2012, 10:32 PM   #968
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''also in a properly designed DAC, if changing from one bit perfect i2s interface to another brand bitperfect i2s interface alters the sound in a profound way, you need a better dac design''

or a better PSU
are the 2 separate?

@ Bob: useful subjective information...? interesting choice of words =)

btw I wasnt telling people to stop it, just explaining why there might be a lack of it

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Old 28th November 2012, 11:06 PM   #969
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I'm going to stop after this comment because I don't want to pull us off topic further, and to respect the technical focus as proposed. IMHO, there is nothing wrong in attempting to limit the types of responses/posts collected in any particular thread. I, like most members are fine with following the rules as long as the base/intent is clearly stated. Often it takes a few pages for that focus to develop and sort itself out.

"Useful subjective information" means nothing more than the sharing of a builders auditory impression. As stated, those comments appear to be welcomed and useful, but just not the primary focus here. I can find no fault with that.

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I'm going to stop after this comment because I don't want to pull us off topic further, and to respect the technical focus as proposed. IMHO, there is nothing wrong in attempting to limit the types of responses/posts collected in any particular thread. I, like most members are fine with following the rules as long as the base/intent is clearly stated. Often it takes a few pages for that focus to develop and sort itself out.

"Useful subjective information" means nothing more than the sharing of a builders auditory impression. As stated, those comments appear to be welcomed and useful, but just not the primary focus here. I can find no fault with that.

PEACE !
I'll tell you one thing bob, I've never heard the Blue Coast Collection sound as good as through the Amanero, maybe the exaU2I "sounds" better with PCM , but the DSD implementation of the Amanero is pretty good to my ears, subjective as it is.
I hope this "opinion" doesn't rile anyone who obviously are much more eloquent than me.
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