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Old 15th December 2011, 02:45 PM   #831
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The original text I translated was by Marc Heijligers.
OK, thanks Bas Horneman. I somehow jumped to the conclusion that Rob Dingen was the writer behind the original post you translated.

Nevertheless, Rob, I am still equally interested in your experiences on how he perceived the differences between the UCD, PASS and ncore, no matter whether they relate to what was expressed in the translation or not
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Old 15th December 2011, 03:13 PM   #832
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Hi All

I can't help to decide what you need for active 2 way because I don't have experience with it.
But in general I don't like to mix up different amplifiers.
The biggest difference between UCD and Passlabs clone is musicality in favor of the Passlabs clone.
The passlabs clone has also more drive in the mid bass area.
The Ncore has that drive also is very musical and has more topend detail than the passlabs clone.
It also has a bit more resolution.
So if my previous post is not clear I prefer the Ncore over the Passlabs clone.
But the difference is smaller then the difference between UCD and Passlabs clone.

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Old 15th December 2011, 03:21 PM   #833
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Hi All

I can't help to decide what you need for active 2 way because I don't have experience with it.
But in general I don't like to mix up different amplifiers.
The biggest difference between UCD and Passlabs clone is musicality in favor of the Passlabs clone.
The passlabs clone has also more drive in the mid bass area.
The Ncore has that drive also is very musical and has more topend detail than the passlabs clone.
It also has a bit more resolution.
So if my previous post is not clear I prefer the Ncore over the Passlabs clone.
But the difference is smaller then the difference between UCD and Passlabs clone.

Rob
great, direct and concise. thanks!
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Old 15th December 2011, 03:24 PM   #834
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Thank you, Rob. Would you say the Ncore has a tendency to sound dry/clinical?
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Old 15th December 2011, 03:24 PM   #835
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hey, Rob
fore how long have you had your amps with ncore modules ?
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Old 15th December 2011, 03:53 PM   #836
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I was just thinking about one side of the things that wasn't mentioned.
a dual-mono implementation of an NCORE-based amp (2 x SMPS, 2 x NCORE, a decent case, connectors and wires) amounts to ~1300 EUR in parts alone.
it is worth to say that a very good, tried and tested class A amp can be implemented for less. it is my opinion that with the NCORE Hypex decided to orient more towards the OEM market, not the DIY one.
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Old 15th December 2011, 03:59 PM   #837
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it is worth to say that a very good, tried and tested class A amp can be implemented for less.
Probably. But not a 2x400W one.
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Old 15th December 2011, 04:03 PM   #838
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Probably. But not a 2x400W one.
well, if you don't need 400W the advantages seem to vanish. the only chance is that the NCORE beats very good class A amps by more than a small margin. for me the price/quality advantage is gone.
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Old 15th December 2011, 04:07 PM   #839
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those who have posted their listening impressions (of the OEM modules). these observations are very promising, as the leading edge emphasis, and decay de-emphasis of most class D designs is something which I have always felt was their weakness. The impression that the nCore solves this "problem" is very encouraging indeed.
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Old 15th December 2011, 04:15 PM   #840
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.. it is my opinion that with the NCORE Hypex decided to orient more towards the OEM market, not the DIY one.
Not just your opinion, even Bruno himself stated here that the core business of Hypex is the OEM market.
Apparently that market asks for high power amplifiers, which we DIY'ers don't need actually for our home speakers.
A lower power, and therefore maybe somewhat cheaper, amp module would be very attractive, but maybe we must be glad that at least something of this technology is available for DIY.
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