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Old 13th January 2013, 03:33 PM   #5931
ds23man is offline ds23man  Netherlands
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Maybe you want to be able to play really loud?

Independent of your speaker sensitivity or amp power, you might have a situation where the last 10 dB of input amplitude make the amp clip. Lowering the amp gain 10 dB still allows you to play at full volume, but gives you 10 dB extra signal-to-noise ratio.
Yes, and lowering the gain in the preampstage will give you also 10db extra signal to noise ratio. The noise is comming from the preamp stage, not the Ncore! Btw, how many 100db+ speakersystems can cope with 200watt+ input levels???
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Old 13th January 2013, 03:36 PM   #5932
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Yes, and lowering the gain in the preampstage will give you also 10db extra signal to noise ratio. The noise is comming from the preamp stage, not the Ncore!
I guess that depends on your peamp - and some of the noise might come from your attenuator.

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how many 100db+ speakersystems can cope with 200watt+ input levels???
No idea - but I also don't see what it has to do with the discussion about amp gain. Why would you want to use a 200W+ amp for a speaker system that can't handle the power?
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Old 13th January 2013, 03:45 PM   #5933
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No idea - but I also don't see what it has to do with the discussion about amp gain. Why would you want to use a 200W+ amp for a speaker system that can't handle the power?
Well the guy who ****** up his ncore does
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Old 13th January 2013, 03:57 PM   #5934
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Well the guy who ****** up his ncore does
Well, yes, he did state that he need to lower the gain with his 100dB speakers, but it is still possible that that was to avoid clipping rather than for avoiding blowing up his speakers or ears.
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Old 13th January 2013, 04:38 PM   #5935
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Well, yes, he did state that he need to lower the gain with his 100dB speakers, but it is still possible that that was to avoid clipping rather than for avoiding blowing up his speakers or ears.
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Old 13th January 2013, 06:08 PM   #5936
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I use a passive preamp (TVC) after a 5V output balanced DAC.
The very fist step of the TVC is a bit loud for "night" listenings.
I also plan to use a DSP with digital volume control so I definitely need to lower the gain. It is as simple as that.

Before my message there was no serious warnings about removing the resistor, everybody said it was easy ...
After my message, we find 2 other people that had some problems !
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Old 13th January 2013, 06:42 PM   #5937
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that all depends on your skills and experience in SMD (de)soldering, and is in fact not related to the nCore itself.
Some will find it easy, others will find it difficult..
It proves that a lot on the internet is subjective and should be red with care

Nevertheless, it's a pity that your amp died
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Old 13th January 2013, 07:12 PM   #5938
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Before my message there was no serious warnings about removing the resistor, everybody said it was easy ...
I definitely reported, in this thread, killing one of my nc400s when desoldering R141 at the time it happened.
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Old 13th January 2013, 11:10 PM   #5939
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Hi Regnad - now I am confused

Do you mean to say that the NC400 with 6" speaker wire outperforms the NC1200 with the longer speaker wire?

I thought you were indicating in an earlier post that the NC1200 sounded better even when using longer speaker wire?

Appreciate if you could clarify - thanks!
Sorry, I meant that the NC400 amps with short speaker cables were better than the NC400 with longer ones. I think that the NC1200 is better still but so much of this is synergy and many other things. One thing is for sure, with the NC400 I considered unhooking the subs and with the NC1200 it was certain. I have not tried short speaker cables with the NC1200 amps.
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Old 14th January 2013, 05:26 AM   #5940
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Sorry, I meant that the NC400 amps with short speaker cables were better than the NC400 with longer ones. I think that the NC1200 is better still but so much of this is synergy and many other things. One thing is for sure, with the NC400 I considered unhooking the subs and with the NC1200 it was certain. I have not tried short speaker cables with the NC1200 amps.
ok - thanks - that makes sense now!

also, out of curiosity how long and what size is the cable with the NC1200?
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