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Old 7th January 2013, 01:11 AM   #5841
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I'm also surprised that the Atsah uses the soft-start module as I believe that it is built into the SMPS600 supply. Extra connections, wire, fuses, etc. The Veritas has no power switch, just standby.

It looks to me that the Atsah went for small size over an optimum environment for the NC1200.

The back of the Veritas has the IEC, two Cardas speaker and the XLR connector.
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Old 7th January 2013, 01:22 AM   #5842
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Sorry, short speaker cables did improve the NC400s which were already better than the 2 amps I had previously used (CJ 275M and Parasound JC-1).

The Veritas (with the NC1200 modules) was quite a bit better still. It was at this point I did not need the subs, which was great because I got rid of the crossover and delay needs. Now use the subs just for movies.

To clarify though, the NC400 and Veritas (NC1200) amps are both Ncore-based.
Hello ,

Are you saying your Nc400 diy kit amp was superior to your JC-1's ?
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Old 7th January 2013, 05:30 AM   #5843
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Hello ,

Are you saying your Nc400 diy kit amp was superior to your JC-1's ?
Yes, to me the NC400s were the best amps I had heard. The JC-1s are sold now. The NC400 is a fun project and less than $1000 per amp.
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Old 7th January 2013, 08:43 PM   #5844
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they have a lot of models , which is considered the best for sonics ...
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Old 7th January 2013, 08:49 PM   #5845
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Wayne, I'd start with the NC400+SMPS600 combo.
If you're happy with the result but want more power you might want to demo one of the NC1200-based commercial offerings (since the higher-powered NC1200 modules are only available to OEM clients). Or try bridging/biamping with NC400s.
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Old 7th January 2013, 08:53 PM   #5846
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I'm going to be listening to the Merrill amps, he is using the nc1200
modules ...

merrill Audio Hypex Ncore NC1200 based VERITAS Power Amp Mono Blocks

If I'm as impressed as he said i would be, then for sure I would give the nc400 a try ..

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Old 7th January 2013, 09:13 PM   #5847
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I'm going to be listening to the Merrill amps, he is using the nc1200
modules ...

merrill Audio Hypex Ncore NC1200 based VERITAS Power Amp Mono Blocks

If I'm as impressed as he said i would be, then for sure I would give the nc400 a try ..
Sounds like a plan! Let us know.
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Old 7th January 2013, 11:44 PM   #5848
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Or try bridging/biamping with NC400s.
Have there been any reports yet on how bridged NC400īs sound?
-Could be quite interesting in comparison to single NC400 and NC1200 implementations....
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Old 8th January 2013, 06:31 AM   #5849
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Have there been any reports yet on how bridged NC400īs sound?
-Could be quite interesting in comparison to single NC400 and NC1200 implementations....
I recall reading something on AudioCircle. A couple of members there have bridged their NCores though I'm not sure anyone had the chance to compare them to NC1200s.

This would also help shed some light on the reports that indicate the NC1200s sound better than the NC400s. I have a "hunch" bridged NC400s would sound the same - if not better.
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Old 8th January 2013, 12:11 PM   #5850
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I recall reading something on AudioCircle. A couple of members there have bridged their NCores though I'm not sure anyone had the chance to compare them to NC1200s.

This would also help shed some light on the reports that indicate the NC1200s sound better than the NC400s. I have a "hunch" bridged NC400s would sound the same - if not better.
I havenīt read much on audiocircle so thanks for the heads up.

I share your "hunch"
As I see it, the nc400 should have a "technically" better input buffer although the nc1200 is reported to sound better. Bridged nc400īs could reveal whether an improved voltage potential is THE game changer. If the nc1200 still has the edge, it could be down to its superior current capability...

That said, the commercial implementations of the nc1200 seem to have gone some lengths regarding casing and probably other tweaky stuff "around" the modules. This could also be key to the experienced improvement as they seem to be have done in comparison to more crude nc400 implementations...

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