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Old 13th October 2012, 07:35 PM   #5201
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I can see how increasing granularity could increase apparent (but false) detail - perhaps in the same way that it has been shown that simply adding a small amount of white noise to the signal increases "airiness" without it being at all obvious that noise has been added.
We are fooled by our pattern recognition tendencies; we tend to incorporate noise (which is by definition random in nature) into the signal so it "fits the pattern".
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Old 13th October 2012, 09:36 PM   #5202
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I have the new wire in my amps for about a day and 1/2. The first thing I noticed were vocals were clearer they sounded more like they were right there in the room. I always thought the Ncore amps sounded very clear and detailed, but now even more so.

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Old 14th October 2012, 08:18 AM   #5203
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I read Wikipedia and it said something like ' reduced granularity = less detail....' so I wondered...
Well, one dictionary definition is "The quality of being composed of relatively large particles", so maybe the new cables are less chunky

That once again illustrates the problem with subjective audiophile terms. Just like descriptions of wines - unless you agree on a common framework and definitions, they don't make any sense. Maybe we need a Master Audiophile Diploma and a Advanced Audiophile Certificate?
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Old 14th October 2012, 08:26 AM   #5204
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Old 14th October 2012, 11:21 AM   #5205
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Any opinions from someone who was on RMAF in TweekGeek room where NC1200 based amplifier from Acoustic Imagery has been presented?
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Old 14th October 2012, 12:08 PM   #5206
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Let us hope the wires are better fitted to the connector on the new cable. They came loose just by looking at them on the old one.

I got the same email quoted above, but never bothered to ask for new cables....
If you want the new cables you just click a link on https://www.hypexshop.com/ that pops up. Personally I don't really expect the new cable to make any difference but I'm all up for improved build quality =)
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Old 16th October 2012, 12:39 AM   #5207
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Has anyone placed the NC400 right at the speaker? I just have with 8 inches of 14 AWG wire and, to my ears, the sound is clearly better.

I will likely make a chassis that will house either a SMPS600/NC400 or SMPS700/NC1200 pair with the AC and XLR connectors at one end and straight wires out of the other end.

I bet the NCore would shine in active speakers, Bruno's speakers are active, right?

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Old 16th October 2012, 07:16 AM   #5208
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I can see how increasing granularity could increase apparent (but false) detail - perhaps in the same way that it has been shown that simply adding a small amount of white noise to the signal increases "airiness" without it being at all obvious that noise has been added.
We are fooled by our pattern recognition tendencies; we tend to incorporate noise (which is by definition random in nature) into the signal so it "fits the pattern".
I agree 100% Russ and I think tube distortion as well creates this perceived psycho acoustic affect.

Also a a large open cell foam insert like Dr. Gedlee uses in his waveguide can have the same perceived affect.

It certainly on a technical level makes the system less accurate.

Great points on pattern recognition tendencies and is a great explanation for the phenomenon.

Hey lets face it people like distortion and feeback ehh!

Heck it became and entire industry with electronic music, compressors and affects boxes etc right!

There is "good" and "bad" distortion though.

Psychoacoustics is an amazing and very intriguing science.

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Old 16th October 2012, 07:19 AM   #5209
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Has anyone placed the NC400 right at the speaker? I just have with 8 inches of 14 AWG wire and, to my ears, the sound is clearly better.

I will likely make a chassis that will house either a SMPS600/NC400 or SMPS700/NC1200 pair with the AC and XLR connectors at one end and straight wires out of the other end.

I bet the NCore would shine in active speakers, Bruno's speakers are active, right?

Thanks
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Old 16th October 2012, 07:32 AM   #5210
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Has anyone placed the NC400 right at the speaker? I just have with 8 inches of 14 AWG wire and, to my ears, the sound is clearly better.
I have, but then I never compared it to a longer cable....
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