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Old 20th April 2012, 01:31 PM   #3751
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I doubt that. My guess is that the DIY market is about 10% of Hypex' business.
It's even less.... but don't worry we like this business as it if gives use a lot of feeback about the performance level we have achieved now...

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Old 20th April 2012, 01:35 PM   #3752
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Hypex do not say who their OEM customers are, so there is no list available of Hypex OEM customers.

My 10% guess is based on the OEM vs DIY sales of other companies that can be compared, i.e. speaker driver manufacturers.

Edit: its even less that 10%, well thats not really a surprise.
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Old 20th April 2012, 01:43 PM   #3753
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Default Hypex... and SMPS600

Well, I know Genesis uses Hypex modules, and am pretty sure Meridian does as well, others...

Julf, do you have the capability of measuring the SMPS600 for noise/ripple and output impedance under a realistic load?

Who is going to listen test the SMPS-Bybee music rails-nCore400 combo?

Listen testing the switching supply vs linear can be tricky, as the switching supply may make the amp sound great, but trash (RF) emmitted from the SMPS may get picked up elsewhere in the system (airborne, or through AC contamination). A fully balanced set up can help with this, and well shielded enclosure (thick metal chassis)... Anyone doing these comparisons, please report system details.
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Old 20th April 2012, 01:53 PM   #3754
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I would think there are lots of companies using Hypex products and technology, and OEM is of course where the money is made!

An other company worth mentioning here is ICEpower, although they can't be directly compared to Hypex. ICEpower totally ignore the DIY market as well as small manufacturers, and that's how they have been able to sell over 100 million channels of ICEpower amps.
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Old 20th April 2012, 02:00 PM   #3755
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What they really should have done is to make it with an integrated SMPS, like the ICEpower ASP modules. Amp and SMSP on a single board. That would have made it even more plug-and-play, and guys like Erlend would have one thing less to worry about.
There is already not so much DIY in assembling the amp; an integrated module would take away at least a major element to do some DIY and experimenting with power supplies.
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Old 20th April 2012, 02:19 PM   #3756
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There is already not so much DIY in assembling the amp; an integrated module would take away at least a major element to do some DIY and experimenting with power supplies.
Yes. And it would mean less trouble and less support....
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Old 20th April 2012, 02:24 PM   #3757
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Julf, do you have the capability of measuring the SMPS600 for noise/ripple and output impedance under a realistic load?
Yes - but not right now. I don't have a resistor with enough power handling to use as an artificial load, and my main speakers are in the process of being rewired. I don't think I want to subject the BBC 3/5A's to "realistic" nc400 loads.

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Listen testing the switching supply vs linear can be tricky, as the switching supply may make the amp sound great, but trash (RF) emmitted from the SMPS may get picked up elsewhere in the system (airborne, or through AC contamination). A fully balanced set up can help with this, and well shielded enclosure (thick metal chassis)...
Bruno has stated that the smps600 has a very low RF footprint, and having measured the RF emissions around one, I have to agree. Even with a wire loop antenna, you have to go pretty close for a sensitive oscilloscope to pick up anything. If the smps600 is in a metal enclosure I wouldn't worry about RF being an issue. Oh, and all I saw on the power line was the usual hash from dimmers and computer power supplies (in an adjacent room).
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Old 20th April 2012, 02:28 PM   #3758
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I've run the input signal cable slightly under the SMPS600, very close to one of the filter chokes. No noise pickup at all. Its dead silent, like it wasnt even turned on.
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Old 20th April 2012, 02:59 PM   #3759
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"Bruno has stated that the smps600 has a very low RF footprint, and having measured the RF emissions around one, I have to agree. Even with a wire loop antenna, you have to go pretty close for a sensitive oscilloscope to pick up anything. If the smps600 is in a metal enclosure I wouldn't worry about RF being an issue. Oh, and all I saw on the power line was the usual hash from dimmers and computer power supplies (in an adjacent room)."

Thanks for sharing, that is good to know. So you did not look at the AC line with dimmers shut off, and other noisy stuff unplugged? My previous experience suggests that dimmers are just about the worst offenders in this regard, and that their noise would swamp just about anything else on the circuit (or even in parallel back at the box).
I removed all the dimmers from my home...
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Old 20th April 2012, 03:43 PM   #3760
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What they really should have done is to make it with an integrated SMPS, like the ICEpower ASP modules. Amp and SMSP on a single board. That would have made it even more plug-and-play, and guys like Erlend would have one thing less to worry about.
Well, Bruno stopped using input opamps and input capacitors to stop the endless........................................... .................................................. ...................................discussions. He had better intergrated the supply as well!

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