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Old 28th March 2012, 12:24 PM   #3111
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I wish I could use NCore but, at the moment Hypex chose to release this ground breaking technology only to DIY cynics like you.
Well, you can, that's why the NC1200 is OEM only.

http://www.hypex.nl/docs/NC1200_datasheet.pdf

Yes, you just put them in a case and charge whatever you want...the hard work is done!
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Old 28th March 2012, 12:45 PM   #3112
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Well, you can, that's why the NC1200 is OEM only.

http://www.hypex.nl/docs/NC1200_datasheet.pdf

Yes, you just put them in a case and charge whatever you want...the hard work is done!
And the datasheet says: Customization available, so you can even charge more!
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Old 28th March 2012, 12:52 PM   #3113
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The first company to sell them at a cost I can swallow will get my business. I'd love to use them for my subs.
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Old 28th March 2012, 01:43 PM   #3114
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The first company to sell them at a cost I can swallow will get my business. I'd love to use them for my subs.
Jason

I am not yet a big enough OEM purchaser or, as Bruno put it 'an A lister' to get NC1200's to play with. What I was refering to was an as yet unannounced NC400 OEM version if indeed they (Hypex) are intending to release one...

I'm waiting with breath held to see how much the 'Mola Mola' amps will be which as we now know are NC1200 mono's.....gonna be some questions asked at Theta and Genesis if they are relatively cheap.

I know you're not all cynics and I just objected to the tone of the post by Omholt as I've sunk a huge amount of time and effort to get my company off the ground and I freely admit I'm not an EE so I have to purchase expertise from companies such as Hypex who do indeed ' do the hard part '. I certainly do not 'charge what I like '. The end user price is dictated by a potential distributors buying price which has to be a certain % of the retail.

If I wanted to market a valve amp I would probably go to the likes of Tim de Paravicini to design one for me. Many have gone down this route before me.

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Old 28th March 2012, 01:57 PM   #3115
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I know you're not all cynics and I just objected to the tone of the post by Omholt as I've sunk a huge amount of time and effort to get my company off the ground and I freely admit I'm not an EE so I have to purchase expertise from companies such as Hypex who do indeed ' do the hard part '. I certainly do not 'charge what I like '. The end user price is dictated by a potential distributors buying price which has to be a certain % of the retail.
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Come on man. My post was meant as a joke. I thought that was obvious. I no nothing of your business.

Reminds me of what Goldmund did with their DVD player. The cost of the Goldmund player was $6,000 and the interior was a standard Pioneer DVD player. Nice profit even with the expensive chassis. Goldmund attmitted it by the way. I find something like that very amusing. But of course, it someone did something similar with Ncore they would at least get a high quality product.
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Old 28th March 2012, 02:36 PM   #3116
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Come on man. My post was meant as a joke. I thought that was obvious. I no nothing of your business.

Reminds me of what Goldmund did with their DVD player. The cost of the Goldmund player was $6,000 and the interior was a standard Pioneer DVD player. Nice profit even with the expensive chassis. Goldmund attmitted it by the way. I find something like that very amusing. But of course, it someone did something similar with Ncore they would at least get a high quality product.
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Must be having a bad day....sorry about that.

Have a look at acousticimagery - HOME to see the effort we put into launching our pre and power amps.

Hi Fi news gave a great review in January issue this year (PM me with your email address and if you want I can send you a scan of the review) and if you go to the biography page of Grimm Audio, Bruno has quoted the editor of Hi Fi News which was lifted from our review!!

By the way our cases are milled from solid and it aint cheap. And also by the way, if you've followed this thread from way back, where's the 'milled from solid' cases that Richard from Hexateq was doing for the NC400's? Hmmmm!

DIY is all about getting the maximum performance from the least outlay and the NC400/SMPS600 combo is probably the best amplifier ever made for the money it costs to get it going in a simple inexpensive case.

When you try to market high end hi fi these days you have to make them look fantastic as well as sound fantastic and if you are a new name you have to try even harder.

Keep up with all the posts as I rely on you guys for news and info and I must try to recognise the jokes ......

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Old 28th March 2012, 02:52 PM   #3117
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Jason

What I was refering to was an as yet unannounced NC400 OEM version if indeed they (Hypex) are intending to release one...
Hmm. That would be an interesting product...I wonder what would be different.
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Old 28th March 2012, 02:52 PM   #3118
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forum.zelfbouwaudio.nl • Toon onderwerp - Vooraankondiging Hypex High End DSP platform

Top of the page. It's in dutch, so you'll have to google-translate it.

edit: read the rest of the page too for info, they're not delivering, it's about picking up the design again.
Thank you. I've read several threads on there (including this one) and Google's translation has worked so far (except it sometimes seems to miss blocks of text out, so I end up with 2 browsers open - one original and one translated)

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Can give you a qoute but it is in dutch....

Hypex did a betatest with the dlcp. They decided to redesign the board before putting it on the market. Because of the development of the Ncore this project became on hold. A couple of weeks ago they started working on it again. If the redesigned board is ok they will run a test batch. If everthing works out nice I don not see a problem with Q2 as a release date.

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That's not the way I read it. This seems to be the 2nd beta. Jan-Peter says '0 series' 'slow progression' etc.
It's back in the development plans but he says nothing about production. Q2 seems to be the availability of the next beta batch, not when it's available for sale.

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Come on man. My post was meant as a joke. I thought that was obvious. I no nothing of your business.
I understood it to be tongue-in-cheek.

acousticimagery,
I do think most of us here understand the number of hours we put into design, fabrication, and assembly and understand that with commercial products that you need economies of scale and that labour (and business infrastructure) have to be paid for.

I didn't seem to see enough interested response for Richard Hexateq's case for him to justify production (I may be wrong). There didn't even seem to be consensus over mono/stereo cases. With DIY cases everyone seems to want to go their own way.
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Old 28th March 2012, 02:58 PM   #3119
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Reminds me of what Goldmund did with their DVD player. The cost of the Goldmund player was $6,000 and the interior was a standard Pioneer DVD player. Nice profit even with the expensive chassis.
I've seen worse. I have a fair bit of British military equipment in my garage. One of them is a monitor system for helicopter landings, a very rugged-looking, specialized video monitor. Must have cost at least 30.000 GBP to the military. If you open the lid, you see it has a standard consumer-grade Sony portable TV inside....
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This was the betatest:

forum.zelfbouwaudio.nl • Toon onderwerp - Hypex 12 kanaals gebalanceerde pré met dsp

The major cause of delay was the software, confirmed by Hypex on the above forum. And they wanted to do some tweaks on the board. The software issue will be solved by now ( see the Grimm LS1). I do not think they will do a second betatest, only a 0 series batch for early adaptors......
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