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Bal-Bal, gain with volume control

I posted this on the longer thread last week and I only got a reply suggesting that I switch to SE at my input to make volume control easier and then go balanced for my output. I really want this to be bal bal.

But, I am unsure if I understand this correctly:

I think gain is Rf/Ri, and from the thread note that if I want to use an attenuator, 10 K should be a good value (works fine with my source), I should up Ri and Rf to 10K. So—with a 10K pot and 10K Ri, is the input impedance 5K? does this mean that for a gain of 2, I leave Rf at 10K?
 
NTD1 PCB V3 - ($35 for a single stereo board with full PSU)
- 2 Layer PCB – 1oz copper – immersion gold plated – tented vias – white soldermask
- Designed to be used with BII, BIII and ACKO ESS9018 based DAC boards.
- Upgraded TPS7A3301 regulator section – Improved noise floor
- Same dimensions and mounting points as V2
- See project thread here: http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/digital-line-level/154866-new-take-classic-pass-labs-d1-ess-dac.html

Hi Owen,

When will we be able to order the new flavors of NTD1? Do you have a sign up sheet for them?

Thanks
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picovolt, you don't have to switch to SE to have a balanced volume control. If you have already googled balanced volume control, there is one method you will see that you have to put 2 resistors in series with the inputs of the op amps and then a volume control in between the inputs. You don't have to mod the boards, just add the parts externally to the board.
 
I posted this on the longer thread last week and I only got a reply suggesting that I switch to SE at my input to make volume control easier and then go balanced for my output. I really want this to be bal bal.

But, I am unsure if I understand this correctly:

I think gain is Rf/Ri, and from the thread note that if I want to use an attenuator, 10 K should be a good value (works fine with my source), I should up Ri and Rf to 10K. So—with a 10K pot and 10K Ri, is the input impedance 5K? does this mean that for a gain of 2, I leave Rf at 10K?
this is Bruno Putzeys bal vol control
4 parts on grounding each worth reading
http://www.edn.com/design/consumer/4429968/2/The-G-word--How-to-get-your-audio-off-the-ground
http://www.edn.com/design/consumer/...ow-to-get-your-audio-off-the-ground--Part-2--
http://www.edn.com/design/consumer/4430977/The-G-word--How-to-get-your-audio-off-the-ground--Part-3-
Part4 is specifically a bal to unbal with unbalanced active vol control and then back to bal for the output.
Note the the bal output is actually a "Balanced Impedance" connection. It is very similar to Jensen's in apnote3
see 2.4 a simple alternative.
http://www.edn.com/Home/PrintView?contentItemId=4431638

Bal converted to unbal to vol pot, then convert back to bal seems to be the only way to do it properly.
That's what I told you last week.
But you don't like the answer!

BTW,
there is a follow up in the "comments" pointing out that the rise in LF distortion starting @~200Hz was due to his mistakenly using a log pot in the active vol control feedback link.

He confirms this added distortion is removed when he changed to the lin pot he had planned to use.
 
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