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Old 4th April 2009, 07:10 PM   #91
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Any anticipated date for pre-orders?
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Old 4th April 2009, 08:20 PM   #92
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If you like the Buffalo, you guys are going to really like the Buffalo32S.


Anyway Brian is sending one off for us to get tested. We should have some numbers to go along with the listening impressions soon.

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Hi Russ,

this is great news. Are you going to publish the numbers and curves here or on your support forum?

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Old 4th April 2009, 09:01 PM   #93
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New prices have appeared on TwistedPearAudio...
And it is about twice the price of the Buffalo24/IVY combo...
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Old 4th April 2009, 09:19 PM   #94
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And it is about twice the price of the Buffalo24/IVY combo...

Or Buffalo24/Counterpoint.
It makes me wonder how much a Sabre32 with integrated discrete I/V stages would cost considering the current pricing policy... Certainly too much to justify an upgrade from Sabre24+Counterpoints.
I just hope Russ and Brian will revise the price at some point before pre-orders.
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yeah I decided i was going to finally get a sabre, but this is nearly NZ$1000.00.
Russ will there be any more runs of the old sabre dac?
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Old 4th April 2009, 10:10 PM   #96
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Hey guys,

Just a note about the Buffalo32S pricing, we are doing our best to keep the Buffalo32S price reasonable. The price reflects the increase in cost of the components used along with a similar increase in production costs.

For example, the clock, resistors, caps, VREGs, etc are all more expensive on this board, and there are more of them. This board has something like 4 times (I will have to count) as many components as the older Buffalo.

One example is that we found that resistor matching plays a key role in distortion of the output stage. So all the resistors in the analog section are .1% thin film SMT types which are not cheap. This same approach was taken for caps etc. We did not skimp on anything. We wanted it to be a world class DAC. I wanted the layout and implementation to live up to the promise of the chip.

Add to that the cost of assembly and testing and the time it takes to do all this and it all adds up. Keep in mind also that Brian and I have spent (so far) hundreds of hours designing,producing, and testing this beast too.

Now having heard the Buffalo32S DAC, I can tell you I couldn't be more satisfied with the result. The increase in quality and value is more than proportional to the increase in cost.

Brian and I really appreciate your support and welcome your feedback.

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Old 4th April 2009, 10:19 PM   #97
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Hi Russ,

before the prices were listed on the website, there was also also a package containing an buffalo 32s, digital p/s and 2 analogue p/s modules. now only a package containing 1 analogue p/s is mentioned.

why has the package with 2 analogues been scrapped? no noticable difference in sound?

Cant wait till pre-ordering opens!

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The increase quality and value is more than proportional to the increase in cost.
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I'm curious how you measured this
Compared to Buffalo24-IVY/Counterpoint?
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Hi Russ,

before the prices were listed on the website, there was also also a package containing an buffalo 32s, digital p/s and 2 analogue p/s modules. now only a package containing 1 analogue p/s is mentioned.

why has the package with 2 analogues been scrapped? no noticable difference in sound?

Cant wait till pre-ordering opens!

Scanspeakman

I think Brian is still updating the page so it could still be an option.

I have not tested it with separate bipolar supplies yet. In my mind I am not sure how it could make it much better. But the option is there if you so choose.

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I'm curious how you measured this
Compared to Buffalo24-IVY/Counterpoint?

There is nothing really to compare it to.

Really it is something special.

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