Recognizing wiped out ECC's 81,82,83

Valvomaniac · 21st March 2007, 01:36 AM

Hi,

I always find a lot of used ECC8? tubes with the numbers & labels wiped out. Some times - when parts of the label is showing- I can tell its a Mullard or Telefunken etc.

The Question is: How can I tell the difference without plugging them into an amp??!!

Thanx

Salas · 21st March 2007, 02:29 AM

Innards of 12ax7s are smaller. The proper answer is 'get a curve tracer' but its not appropriate or functioning in this occasion. See labeled tubes, examine their innards and try to more or less match non labeled for internal sizes.

ArtG · 21st March 2007, 02:29 AM

Plug them into a tube tester, and compare them to a known tube. This should get you "in the ballpark", anyway. This should be helpful if you know that you are only dealing with ECC81, 82, and 83s. If you are not sure that the tubes in question are in this group, then your problem becomes more complicated. There are dealers and other experts that are good at identifying tubes by their internal structure, but I wouldn't think that your chances of finding such a person in Cairo would be very good.

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Valvomaniac diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2007	Recognizing wiped out ECC's 81,82,83 Hi, I always find a lot of used ECC8? tubes with the numbers & labels wiped out. Some times - when parts of the label is showing- I can tell its a Mullard or Telefunken etc. The Question is: How can I tell the difference without plugging them into an amp??!! Thanx

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21st March 2007, 02:29 AM	#2
Salas diyAudio Chief Moderator Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Athens-Greece	Innards of 12ax7s are smaller. The proper answer is 'get a curve tracer' but its not appropriate or functioning in this occasion. See labeled tubes, examine their innards and try to more or less match non labeled for internal sizes.

21st March 2007, 02:29 AM	#3
ArtG diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Central PA	Plug them into a tube tester, and compare them to a known tube. This should get you "in the ballpark", anyway. This should be helpful if you know that you are only dealing with ECC81, 82, and 83s. If you are not sure that the tubes in question are in this group, then your problem becomes more complicated. There are dealers and other experts that are good at identifying tubes by their internal structure, but I wouldn't think that your chances of finding such a person in Cairo would be very good.

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