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Old 18th March 2007, 02:20 PM   #1
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Default EL 84 Pentode Config.

EL 84 Pentode configuration.
Sound sweet and nice. Except 2 drawback.
Slow no speed .
Bass sound bloated.
Any suggestion .
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Old 18th March 2007, 03:15 PM   #2
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I have questions.
Do you have a schematic?
Is it se or pp?
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Old 18th March 2007, 03:21 PM   #3
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Default Re: EL 84 Pentode Config.

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EL 84 Pentode configuration.
Sound sweet and nice. Except 2 drawback.
Slow no speed .
Bass sound bloated.
Any suggestion .
Have you used negative feedback?
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Old 18th March 2007, 04:07 PM   #4
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No NFB = High output Z. High output Z = Big, bloaty bass with speakers not specifically designed for that. And a frequency response that looks like a roller coaster.
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Old 19th March 2007, 02:48 PM   #5
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Default EL 84 slow NOW Fast.

Found out the problem with the pacing.
Over size supply cable , changed to copper tin type.
Bass still bloated.
Schematic : www. Diyparadise.com/buildel84c.html
It's PP.
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Old 19th March 2007, 03:31 PM   #6
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Old 19th March 2007, 04:24 PM   #7
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Scrap the UL. Try connect the screens directly to B+.
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Old 19th March 2007, 04:39 PM   #8
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Default UL / Screen B+

Still no good.
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Old 19th March 2007, 04:57 PM   #9
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If you have 4,8, and 16 ohm output taps you could use them to apply cathode feedback to the EL84's like Audio Research does. This would tighten up the base.
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Old 19th March 2007, 05:58 PM   #10
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Try triode connect the EL84s. 100 Ohm resistor between screen and anode.

This will reduce gain. But it's a start. If this works you might have to use feedback if you want to run the amp in UL or as pentode. Triodes have internal NFB. Pentodes don't.
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