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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Norway
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In short time I am going to start building a PX25 class A push pull amplifier. I will like to incorporate a (solid state) circuit that controls the bias. A sort of class A on demand or adaptive bias circuit. The idea is to run the amplifier at class AB at idle and class A when there are input signal. This will reduce heat and power consumption.
As a start I will do it very simple with two fixed bias levels, for the PX25 let's say 4x20mA at idle and 4x60mA for class A under normal conditions. I could have made a circuit that is sensing the input signal all the time and controlling the bias as a function of signal level, but that will alter the working point of the output tubes continuously, and I'm not sure what kind of sonic impact that will bring. ![]() Looking at the graph you will see some time constants. There is attack time: from a signal is detected to the bias is full class A (10 sec). A silence delay time constant: after 60 sec without signal the timer goes from logical 1 to 0. Decay time: time constant to decrease the bias from class A to class AB hibernating (20 sek). I probably have to experiment with these time constants. The circuit will be made of an op-amp, a 555 timer and a power transistor. The power transistor will control the C- voltage that supplies the bias networks. That means that I still can adjust the bias for each tube in the old fashion way. The controller will just increase the C- supply from one pre defined level to another. The power supply is quite stiff so a change from class A to AB (from 4x60mA to 4x20mA) will not raise the B+ too much. Any comments, warnings or bright ideas? Jan E Veiset
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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If this jukebox is any indication they generally ran near Class B to maximize tube life, and minimize service calls, so it won't be as effective with pure A. Perhaps a combination of this along with your adaptive bias will provide double bang for the buck at the cost of an extra pair of contacts and a wirewound. Edit: Forgot, this method also allowed Rowe to get long life from a 5U4GB with 80 uF directly on its output. Apparently it doubles as a soft-start. |
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I think a MOSFET standby swith could also work to accomplish this. If it is better? Do not know, but, you have another example. Look at
http://www.geofex.com/Article_Folder...osfetfolly.htm Scroll down a bit for the MOSFET standby switch. |
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Norway
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Thanks for sharing information.
I could use a longer time constant (600+ seconds) to semi shutdown the amplifier. The front end has its own power supply but I suppose I could reduce both B+ and B2+ for long term silence periods. Jan E Veiset
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Join Date: Sep 2004
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Hi,
So, we're talking a "dynamic class-A" for tubes, like SS uses. John Broskie at tubecad.com has an autobias circuit that could quite probably be adapted to this purpose. http://www.tubecad.com/2005/May/blog0045.htm http://www.tubecad.com/2005/May/blog0046.htm I played with it a bit too here: http://geek.scorpiorising.ca/GeeK_Zo...p?topic=1728.0 Hope this helps. Cheers! |
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