power supply question.... too many Volts?

akimball442 · 17th February 2007, 05:52 PM

I have two amplifiers i am concerned with in this post... one is an eico ST70, the other is an old motorola amp.

I would like to run both with less tubes, as stereo power amplifiers only. I'm wondering if removing tubes is going to create too much of a rise in voltage, and throw things out of whack?

The ST70 would be lacking only 4 preamp tubes in this configuration. I don't imagine that would be a huge problem.

The motorola however, is a 3 channel 6bm8 amp which has a total of 4 output tubes, the bass is a PP mono setup, the R/L channels are single ended. I want to use this amp with only the pair of single ended tubes. I think that might be more significant.

Any ideas? Should I worry about adding resistors?

Aaron

Miles Prower · 18th February 2007, 05:16 AM

^^^^
I doubt that it will amke much difference if the PS was designed to have anywhere near a reasonable regulation. Even if the voltage rises somewhat, remember, VT circuits are a good deal more "forgiving" than SS.

Klimon · 18th February 2007, 01:55 PM

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The motorola however, is a 3 channel 6bm8 amp which has a total of 4 output tubes, the bass is a PP mono setup, the R/L channels are single ended. I want to use this amp with only the pair of single ended tubes. I think that might be more significant.

If you want to keep close to the original design (= not using it as a parts donor) I would suggest to measure B+ voltages and current draw for the SE output stages, then redesign the power supply (reusing the original trafo and possibly chokes / caps) using Duncan's PSUDII simulator (can be downloaded on duncanamps.com) which is an excellent tool + easy to work with.

edit: the single-ended opts will probably lack low-end bandwith if they were designed to work together with a dedicated low-end PP amp.

good luck!

Simon

akimball442 · 18th February 2007, 04:12 PM

the OPTs for the single ended outputs on the motorola are lousy, but I have a pair from another amp which are much larger.

17th February 2007, 05:52 PM	#1
akimball442 diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2007	power supply question.... too many Volts? I have two amplifiers i am concerned with in this post... one is an eico ST70, the other is an old motorola amp. I would like to run both with less tubes, as stereo power amplifiers only. I'm wondering if removing tubes is going to create too much of a rise in voltage, and throw things out of whack? The ST70 would be lacking only 4 preamp tubes in this configuration. I don't imagine that would be a huge problem. The motorola however, is a 3 channel 6bm8 amp which has a total of 4 output tubes, the bass is a PP mono setup, the R/L channels are single ended. I want to use this amp with only the pair of single ended tubes. I think that might be more significant. Any ideas? Should I worry about adding resistors? Aaron

18th February 2007, 05:16 AM	#2
Miles Prower diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Blog Entries: 6	^^^^ I doubt that it will amke much difference if the PS was designed to have anywhere near a reasonable regulation. Even if the voltage rises somewhat, remember, VT circuits are a good deal more "forgiving" than SS. __________________ There are no foxes in atheistholes www.dolphin-hsl.com

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18th February 2007, 04:12 PM	#4
akimball442 diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2007	the OPTs for the single ended outputs on the motorola are lousy, but I have a pair from another amp which are much larger.