Simple tube preamp?

picklgreen · 8th February 2007, 11:28 PM

I want to build a simple tube preamp to feed my Dynaco St-35. Could someone please lead me to a project for this? I want something similiar to the pramp stage of the SCA-35 or the PAS2/3 preamp minus all the tone/ blance/ phone stage stuff.

FastEddy · 8th February 2007, 11:34 PM

Yes ... a dual channel please ... Kit or just a good diagram would do it. The KISS principle would hopefully apply ... although I would like to keep the phono pe-amp stage, but no need for tone, balance, etc, Prefered: 3 stereo inputs, for CD/DVD-A, Balanced AUX., PHONO ... balanced output?

Bas Horneman · 8th February 2007, 11:37 PM

How about a Foreplay III? Heard one when I was in NY...with a Fi 2a3 and Big Horns....wonderful sound.

Zen Mod · 8th February 2007, 11:37 PM

just build 12B4 preamp with plain vanilla PSU.........xformer,SS rectifiers,CRC (as many times you want it) filter etc.

can't be simpler than that

FastEddy · 9th February 2007, 12:06 AM

Wow, that Foreplay III is a knock out! Very cool and almost exactly what I was looking for. Thx 2 U, Bas Horneman ... not a bad price either.

(Wondering why these tube guys don't use torrid transformers in the power supplies ?)

Zen Mod · 9th February 2007, 12:14 AM

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Originally posted by FastEddy
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(Wondering why these tube guys don't use torrid transformers in the power supplies ?)

because they are not better in preamp PSUs than good ole EI

Shoog · 10th February 2007, 09:16 AM

Toroidals couple any high frequency power line hash from primary to secondary. This is difficult to filter out once in your power supply. This will lead to distortion of your signal as it is imposed on top of it.
EI's are poor at carrying high frequencies (this is why EI output transformers are so difficult to build and hence so expensive), and so the line hash never gets into your signal.

Shoog

dejanm · 10th February 2007, 01:21 PM

and passive pre-amp ? with trainnies ... S&B and if that is to expencive than similar trainnies from Sowter ... no active parts only input selector, wired with trannies and trannie secondaries are connected with the volume pot ... YOu can buy this thing under the name of Music First or Bent Audio or .... Promitheus is Far East option that costs no more than $350 (not very pretty though but it sounds very well).

Only an idea ...

Regards
Dejan

FastEddy · 10th February 2007, 05:53 PM

" ... Toroidals couple any high frequency power line hash from primary to secondary. ... EI's are poor at carrying high frequencies ... and so the line hash never gets into your signal. ..."

Informative and to the point. Thanks ...

Is there a way to distinguish EI's (defination please?) of lesser quality or usability for the purposes of power supplies?

Shoog · 11th February 2007, 09:35 AM

EI's are the standard block type transformers. Named after their laminations which look like "E"'s and "I"'s.

Shoog

8th February 2007, 11:28 PM	#1
picklgreen diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bremerton, WA	Simple tube preamp? I want to build a simple tube preamp to feed my Dynaco St-35. Could someone please lead me to a project for this? I want something similiar to the pramp stage of the SCA-35 or the PAS2/3 preamp minus all the tone/ blance/ phone stage stuff.

8th February 2007, 11:34 PM	#2
FastEddy diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: North Californie	Yes ... a dual channel please ... Kit or just a good diagram would do it. The KISS principle would hopefully apply ... although I would like to keep the phono pe-amp stage, but no need for tone, balance, etc, Prefered: 3 stereo inputs, for CD/DVD-A, Balanced AUX., PHONO ... balanced output? __________________ Over compression is a problem with modern CD recordings

8th February 2007, 11:37 PM	#3
Bas Horneman diyAudio Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: The Netherlands Blog Entries: 18	How about a Foreplay III? Heard one when I was in NY...with a Fi 2a3 and Big Horns....wonderful sound. __________________ Boatanchor amps forum My "adventures" in audio

8th February 2007, 11:37 PM	#4
Zen Mod diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ancient Batsch , behind Iron Curtain	just build 12B4 preamp with plain vanilla PSU.........xformer,SS rectifiers,CRC (as many times you want it) filter etc. can't be simpler than that __________________ my Papa is smarter than your Nelson ! tnx to clean thread ; Cook Book ; PSM LS Cook Book ; Baby Diyaudio FORUM ; BAF Forum & Gallery;I'm dumb

9th February 2007, 12:06 AM	#5
FastEddy diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: North Californie	Wow, that Foreplay III is a knock out! Very cool and almost exactly what I was looking for. Thx 2 U, Bas Horneman ... not a bad price either. (Wondering why these tube guys don't use torrid transformers in the power supplies ?) __________________ Over compression is a problem with modern CD recordings

10th February 2007, 09:16 AM	#7
Shoog diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Eire	Toroidals couple any high frequency power line hash from primary to secondary. This is difficult to filter out once in your power supply. This will lead to distortion of your signal as it is imposed on top of it. EI's are poor at carrying high frequencies (this is why EI output transformers are so difficult to build and hence so expensive), and so the line hash never gets into your signal. Shoog

10th February 2007, 01:21 PM	#8
dejanm diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Vienna	and passive pre-amp ? with trainnies ... S&B and if that is to expencive than similar trainnies from Sowter ... no active parts only input selector, wired with trannies and trannie secondaries are connected with the volume pot ... YOu can buy this thing under the name of Music First or Bent Audio or .... Promitheus is Far East option that costs no more than $350 (not very pretty though but it sounds very well). Only an idea ... Regards Dejan

10th February 2007, 05:53 PM	#9
FastEddy diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: North Californie	" ... Toroidals couple any high frequency power line hash from primary to secondary. ... EI's are poor at carrying high frequencies ... and so the line hash never gets into your signal. ..." Informative and to the point. Thanks ... Is there a way to distinguish EI's (defination please?) of lesser quality or usability for the purposes of power supplies?

11th February 2007, 09:35 AM	#10
Shoog diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Eire	EI's are the standard block type transformers. Named after their laminations which look like "E"'s and "I"'s. Shoog

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