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Old 29th January 2007, 01:24 PM   #1
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Default what's the simple killer tube amp ? anyone ?

If there is such a SKA for SS, why not for valve ?

it must be better than SS, isn't it ?

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Old 29th January 2007, 01:27 PM   #2
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There are many ska's in the tube world. Most tube amps are simple by their very nature.

The single ended ones often need suitable speakers. The pp ones less so.

In the SE camp there is the S.E.X. amp, the Decware SE84's, ASUSA K2003, Paramour and for PushPull something like El Cheapo, Baby Huey or the Musical Machine or even the simple EL84 by diyparadise...just to mention a FEW.

And for a little more expense but still a simple killer amp there is the Bugle 45 or say the SETH PP 2A3 amp.
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Old 29th January 2007, 07:41 PM   #3
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I'll agree that the S.E.X. is simple and quick to build. You can do it in a night. It's nice in that you don't need a preamp and can just plug stuff straight into it as well.

I'd like to build some of those other simple amps to see how they build.
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I'll agree that the S.E.X. is simple and quick to build. You can do it in a night. It's nice in that you don't need a preamp and can just plug stuff straight into it as well.
I heard the S.E.X amp with Cain&Cain speakers driven by a MAC pc. (When I stayed at Bob Wooley's house. I was very sad that Bob himself could not demonstrate them to me. (He had passed away a month earlier). And I really liked what I heard... but one needs appropriate speakers...Ad nauseam
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I'd like to build some of those other simple amps to see how they build.
So do I!!!
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Old 29th January 2007, 08:20 PM   #6
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Default Re: what's the simple killer tube amp ? anyone ?

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If there is such a SKA for SS, why not for valve ?

it must be better than SS, isn't it ?

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There isn't really a "SKA" for either SS or HS. When Greg Ball calls his gizmo the "Simple Killer Amp" it's all marketing hype. There is by no means agreement on that. MOSFET v. BJT; active loaded VAS v. bootstrapped VAS; complimentary LTPs v. SE LTPs; and so on and so on.

It's no different in the Hollow State world either. If it were that simple, then there'd be total agreement, as opposed to tussles over triode v. pentode; SE v. PP; Class A1 v. Class A2, and so on and so on...

Personal preference plays a major role here; always has and always will. One solution will never suit everyone.
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There isn't really a "SKA" for either SS or HS. When Greg Ball calls his gizmo the "Simple Killer Amp" it's all marketing hype. There is by no means agreement on that. MOSFET v. BJT; active loaded VAS v. bootstrapped VAS; complimentary LTPs v. SE LTPs; and so on and so on.
All true ofcourse.

I did a search on your posts calico88 and I don't think any of the amps will be a killer amp for you if you are looking to satify the requirement...50-100 Watt amp.
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Old 29th January 2007, 10:08 PM   #8
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If you are new to tubes I would try one of Fred Nachbauer's minblocks just to start out:

http://www.dogstar.dantimax.dk/tubestuf/index.htm

Or check out Angela's projects:

http://www.angela.com/catalog/how-to/

Or Boozhound's page:

http://boozhoundlabs.com/howto/

Or try a simple kit like this (some of the above
need preamps)

http://www.tubesandmore.com/scripts/...H_TREE02=AUDIO
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Old 29th January 2007, 11:38 PM   #9
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I just finished one of these. (http://www.lh-electric.4t.com/) The sound is fantastic much better than a K12. For a few bucks more you get a safe case and BASS. You can put this together in one night let it break in for day and listen to good music.
Yes they do want good speakers 90db or above.
But to be honest almost all tube amps that don't cost big bucks need speakers like that.
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