Using EL34 in a line stage

duderduderini · 15th January 2007, 08:27 PM

Hi Guys
I saw a schematic using 1/2 an at7 into an el34 which then feeds the 300b. Seeing I had a bunch of at's and el34's I thought why cant we make a preamp based on the 12at7 and el34. I built one channell but it doesnt seem to output the whole spectrum. Very Bassy but mids retsained and it looks like it rolls of real early. The at7 plate voltage is 145 V and only 1/2 the tube is used. The el34 is wired in triode mode.
Any advice or am i barking up the wrong tree?
Thanks
Nick

SY · 15th January 2007, 08:45 PM

Woof, woof.

Andrewbee · 15th January 2007, 08:50 PM

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Woof, woof.

LOL

duderduderini · 16th January 2007, 10:57 AM

Thanks so much for at least explaining why in wont work and not laughing at me. I truly appreciate it.
this forum really is helpful to those needing help.
Warm regards

SY · 16th January 2007, 11:24 AM

This has been discussed previously. Do a forum search and you'll find lots of detail on why it will work, after a fashion, but is analogous to trying to speed a Ford F150 pickup around a go-kart track.

Andrewbee · 16th January 2007, 03:26 PM

Geez Nick,

Take it easy.

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Any advice or am i barking up the wrong tree?

Quote:

Woof, woof.

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LOL

I don't think anyone is laughing at you. I found Sy's response funny in relation to your last sentence.
barking up the wrong tree.... woof woof...
Anyway, while I dont think its the right thing to do (an EL34 in a linestage) that does not mean its not possible.
I have read of 6c33 linestages and 572-10 linestages so why not.

I think you are using the wrong part for the job but that does not mean it cannot be done. I tend to be old school so do not explore a lot which means I am boring

I think an EL84 triode connected makes a decent linestage though, tried it once, thats about as exciting as I get!

Andrew

Bandersnatch · 16th January 2007, 09:39 PM

Hey-Hey!!!,
Run it as a pentode. Adjust the plate load R to give you the gain you need. Build a stable, low impedance g2 supply.

I did just that with a 6AV5GA. 750R plate load. 75V g2. B+ of ~200V. Sounds absolutely brilliant. I haven't put my triode linestages back in very often...

cheers,
Douglas

Eli Duttman · 17th January 2007, 12:24 AM

A "wild" triode option is to ground the plate and the suppressor grid. Use the screen grid as the anode. G2 can easily dissipate the power line stage service requires.

The EL34 data sheet shows a mu of 11 between g1 and g2. That's pretty good for line stage service.

15th January 2007, 08:27 PM	#1
duderduderini diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Albury NSW Australia	Using EL34 in a line stage Hi Guys I saw a schematic using 1/2 an at7 into an el34 which then feeds the 300b. Seeing I had a bunch of at's and el34's I thought why cant we make a preamp based on the 12at7 and el34. I built one channell but it doesnt seem to output the whole spectrum. Very Bassy but mids retsained and it looks like it rolls of real early. The at7 plate voltage is 145 V and only 1/2 the tube is used. The el34 is wired in triode mode. Any advice or am i barking up the wrong tree? Thanks Nick

15th January 2007, 08:45 PM	#2
SY diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Austin, TX Blog Entries: 1	Woof, woof. __________________ “Listening to records is like ****ing a picture of Brigitte Bardot.” - Sergiu Celibidache

16th January 2007, 10:57 AM	#4
duderduderini diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Albury NSW Australia	Thanks Thanks so much for at least explaining why in wont work and not laughing at me. I truly appreciate it. this forum really is helpful to those needing help. Warm regards

16th January 2007, 11:24 AM	#5
SY diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Austin, TX Blog Entries: 1	This has been discussed previously. Do a forum search and you'll find lots of detail on why it will work, after a fashion, but is analogous to trying to speed a Ford F150 pickup around a go-kart track. __________________ “Listening to records is like ****ing a picture of Brigitte Bardot.” - Sergiu Celibidache

16th January 2007, 09:39 PM	#7
Bandersnatch diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ann Arbor, MI	Hey-Hey!!!, Run it as a pentode. Adjust the plate load R to give you the gain you need. Build a stable, low impedance g2 supply. I did just that with a 6AV5GA. 750R plate load. 75V g2. B+ of ~200V. Sounds absolutely brilliant. I haven't put my triode linestages back in very often... cheers, Douglas __________________ the Tnuctipun will return

17th January 2007, 12:24 AM	#8
Eli Duttman diyAudio Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Plainsboro, NJ	A "wild" triode option is to ground the plate and the suppressor grid. Use the screen grid as the anode. G2 can easily dissipate the power line stage service requires. The EL34 data sheet shows a mu of 11 between g1 and g2. That's pretty good for line stage service. __________________ Eli D.

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