on-off switch position in PSU

cbutterworth · 9th November 2006, 04:30 PM

Where's the best (safest??) place for an on-off switch in a PSU. I will use a Hammond 269AX transformer feeding a cap-input choke system yielding around 300V at 30mA. A separate tranny will be used for 6.3VAC heaters.

I am thinking of making the PSU in a separate chassis to the Aikido preamp. However, I would like to use a delay octal tube to allow the heaters to run prior to the HT.

If I place the tube delay in the preamp to switch on the HT at the B+ end of the PSU, AND have a switch on the actual PSU to switch on both transformers simultaneously, will there be a problem with having the HT powered, but open (switch-off) at the preamp end???? Does this make sense?

Of course, it seems that cathode stripping is not too much of a problem at these lower voltages, but if I can avoid the risk for relatively few dollars, then why not go for it????

Charlie

Nordic · 9th November 2006, 04:38 PM

A simple NE555 timer using the 6.3V supply combined with a relay to delay completing the power to the other transformer is cheap, quick and less then $5.

Mains power gets connected to the 6.3V Transformer with a switch... after the switch it goes to the middle leg of the relay's output side as well... from where it can not get to the other transformer, which is connected to the other leg of the relay, until the realy is activated by the timer.

So throwing the switch starts the heaters, and the timer, and then only when the timer has run, it switches on the plate supply.

cbutterworth · 9th November 2006, 04:39 PM

Nordic,

Do you have a schematic for this???

Charlie

Nordic · 9th November 2006, 04:54 PM

Here, original credit by Franz Gysi

Attached is PCB, for 6.3V LM317 based regulator connected to the relay , the red wires are just wires not traces... in eagle, click ratsnest icon to fill in ground plane automaticaly....

it has outputs for the heater and the mains cable goes to middle row of relay switching pins... On my amp I connected a neon lam over the two legs of the realy that is connected until it is powered to show its warming up... then when the timer has run the relay switches the power from the neon lamp to the other transformers in my setup.

Nordic · 9th November 2006, 05:16 PM

lets try again

cbutterworth · 9th November 2006, 05:41 PM

I don't seem to be able to open the "relaydriverb.brd" file. What kind of file is it?

Charlie

Nordic · 9th November 2006, 06:09 PM

eagle board file C17 is 47uF / 16V

9th November 2006, 04:30 PM	#1
cbutterworth diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2006	on-off switch position in PSU Where's the best (safest??) place for an on-off switch in a PSU. I will use a Hammond 269AX transformer feeding a cap-input choke system yielding around 300V at 30mA. A separate tranny will be used for 6.3VAC heaters. I am thinking of making the PSU in a separate chassis to the Aikido preamp. However, I would like to use a delay octal tube to allow the heaters to run prior to the HT. If I place the tube delay in the preamp to switch on the HT at the B+ end of the PSU, AND have a switch on the actual PSU to switch on both transformers simultaneously, will there be a problem with having the HT powered, but open (switch-off) at the preamp end???? Does this make sense? Of course, it seems that cathode stripping is not too much of a problem at these lower voltages, but if I can avoid the risk for relatively few dollars, then why not go for it???? Charlie

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9th November 2006, 04:38 PM	#2
Nordic diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2005	A simple NE555 timer using the 6.3V supply combined with a relay to delay completing the power to the other transformer is cheap, quick and less then $5. Mains power gets connected to the 6.3V Transformer with a switch... after the switch it goes to the middle leg of the relay's output side as well... from where it can not get to the other transformer, which is connected to the other leg of the relay, until the realy is activated by the timer. So throwing the switch starts the heaters, and the timer, and then only when the timer has run, it switches on the plate supply.

9th November 2006, 04:39 PM	#3
cbutterworth diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2006	Nordic, Do you have a schematic for this??? Charlie

9th November 2006, 05:41 PM	#6
cbutterworth diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2006	I don't seem to be able to open the "relaydriverb.brd" file. What kind of file is it? Charlie

9th November 2006, 06:09 PM	#7
Nordic diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2005	eagle board file C17 is 47uF / 16V