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Old 28th December 2002, 04:28 AM   #61
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Has anybody else experienced any fetish behaviours when watching
audio circuits like this ?
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Old 28th December 2002, 04:52 AM   #62
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Has anybody else experienced any fetish behaviours when watching
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No, I have quite enough fetishes anyway. Keep me away from latex and leather.
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Old 28th December 2002, 05:02 AM   #63
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Ah! You are the guy i meat on the most dubiously areas!?

And no!! - I don´t crawl your earlaps with silver forks!
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Old 28th December 2002, 05:27 AM   #64
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And no!! - I don´t crawl your earlaps with silver forks!
Isn't that a line out of the song "Blinded by the Light"?

Or are you reading Dr Seuss on halucinogens?
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Old 28th December 2002, 05:38 AM   #65
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I don´t read or listen anything clever!

No need of halucinogens, just some red wine...

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Old 28th December 2002, 06:08 AM   #66
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"When put on springs?
I find that odd, one would expect a less tight bass and less well defined stereo image.
Could be the type of floor plays a role, still...odd."


Frank, the Bostons are on my triangle shaped PC workstation table, each side of the PC monitor, and amplifier, vcr and tv are on shelves mounted above the PC monitor.
Without springs under the monitor, the table top buzzes like crazy at full level, and this vibration is also transferred to the amplifier.
With the speakers on springs, the table top is MUCH less vibrated, and the amplifier mounted on springs is motionless.
To my ear, the speakers are fuller, friendlier, and the system goes louder, and not the hardness in bass that is evident with other mountings.

In my workshop, the Cantons are mounted on springs on top a long shelf, at shoulder height.
All other mounting methods have resulted in rather high vibration of the shelf, and vibration of the electronics.
With spring mounting, the Cantons go way louder, stronger and cleaner, and ditto, no hardness in bass, and great imaging. (They are now vibrating the soles of my shoes when standing in my 140m2 shop).

I know that all of this goes counter to established standard doctrine, but since trying this, I find it hard to live with bass hardness evident with cones/spikes etc.
The key I think is that the box is allowed to 'float', and be its own system, without influence of delayed reflections from external mounting boundaries (floor, shelf etc).
The box is still sensitive to number and placing of the mounting points, and still requires placement tuning, but the criticalness is reduced, and I find I can tune up a better resultantant than I could using other mounting means.

"Could be the type of floor plays a role, still...odd."
Floors are always a strong influence in my experience.
The less coupling of box mechanical energy to the floor the better I reckon, because that leaves more energy to be emitted by the driver/enclosure system.
There is still more experimentation to be done, but so far I am more than satisfied with the results.

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Old 28th December 2002, 09:43 AM   #67
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Default sound of different materials

hi,

here is link to a very good article about the influence of different materials (mostly wood) on sound

http://www.vansevers.com/Tuning_Tweaks/System_Tweaking/system_tweaking.html

also; some interesting things about connectors and their influence on sound can be found in allen wright's "supercables cookbook"
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Hi,

If you don't mind here is the link again:

MIKE VANSEVERS

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Default So, I'm Not Nuts After All Then.......

Frank, thanks, good link, sorry if I missed it first time.
I have been and had a good read, and agree on most of what I read there, even if I do find some explanations a bit funny.
I have been down a similar track 10 years ago, and found similar things regarding wire/conductor direction, AC power feeds, and resonances, mechanical and electrical.
I found some similar soloutions, some different.
Seems you and I are not alone in noticing these effects.

Eric, The Vindicated.

Brett - Remember when you gave me a hard time when I dared mention the phrase "wire directionality" a long time ago ?.
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Brett - Remember when you gave me a hard time when I dared mention the phrase "wire directionality" a long time ago ?.
He who laughs last laughs best.
I don't recall that. I was probably taking the ****. I make all my own cables (and have for years), and always bring it off the spool, cut and align each conductor/length for direction. I don't think it's a huge effect (actually quite minor), but as they say God is in the details. Circuit topology is at least an order of magnitude more important.

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