Floating the heaters

YoungFred · 16th September 2006, 07:38 AM

Hi

I am working on a direct coupled preamp design and was thinking of using a 175v on the plate of the first stage.

I was thinking of using an Ef86 for the second stage which has a 100v cathode to heater max. Can I simply float the heater that far and if so, what voltage would you recomend?

Do I need to make sure that the heater of the first stage is not floated?

Thank you for your insights! Have a great day!

YF

ErikdeBest · 16th September 2006, 11:24 AM

Hi YoungFred

What is the other tube that you are using? If it also has a cathode to heater max of 100V you could float the heater on about 85V, than both heaters will be within their specs (although pretty stressed).

I believe that in this case it's desirable to use separate heater windings. That will reduce stress, other reason is that if the heater is floated below the cathode there is some kind of diode action between both. If you float your heater some 30V above the cathode voltage this is eliminated. So if you can reference heater for first tube at around 30V, and for the second at around 200V.

I am newbee, but if I am wrong others will correct me

Erik

Geek · 16th September 2006, 11:59 AM

Floating the heater is just fine. Do bypass it with a capacitor (say 2.2 to 4.7uF) to ground for noise considerations. If possible, lift the heater +30V or so above the cathode potential (keep the noise bypass cap too). This is easily done with a divider/bleeder from the supply, as the lift draws no current.

16th September 2006, 07:38 AM	#1
YoungFred diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2006	Floating the heaters Hi I am working on a direct coupled preamp design and was thinking of using a 175v on the plate of the first stage. I was thinking of using an Ef86 for the second stage which has a 100v cathode to heater max. Can I simply float the heater that far and if so, what voltage would you recomend? Do I need to make sure that the heater of the first stage is not floated? Thank you for your insights! Have a great day! YF

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16th September 2006, 11:24 AM	#2
ErikdeBest diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Itoculo	Hi YoungFred What is the other tube that you are using? If it also has a cathode to heater max of 100V you could float the heater on about 85V, than both heaters will be within their specs (although pretty stressed). I believe that in this case it's desirable to use separate heater windings. That will reduce stress, other reason is that if the heater is floated below the cathode there is some kind of diode action between both. If you float your heater some 30V above the cathode voltage this is eliminated. So if you can reference heater for first tube at around 30V, and for the second at around 200V. I am newbee, but if I am wrong others will correct me Erik

16th September 2006, 11:59 AM	#3
Geek diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2004	Floating the heater is just fine. Do bypass it with a capacitor (say 2.2 to 4.7uF) to ground for noise considerations. If possible, lift the heater +30V or so above the cathode potential (keep the noise bypass cap too). This is easily done with a divider/bleeder from the supply, as the lift draws no current.

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